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What is Ignosticism?
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RE: What is Ignosticism?
(October 8, 2018 at 12:30 am)haig Wrote: Wiki : "Ignosticism or igtheism is the idea that the question of the existence of God is meaningless because the term god has no coherent and unambiguous definition."

Ignosticism is really a silly concept. It is a philosophical  position challenging the definition of god or stretching that definition to some irrelevant philosophical ambiguity. When someone challenges the existence of god, it is in the context of a conversation. The god in question, of that conversation is not unambiguous between the parties involved. We all know who the god is, who's existence is being challenged. To suggest otherwise is philosophical mumbo jumbo.

God by any definition is firstly a supernatural entity, and that is not unambiguous, and supersedes any unambiguous definition whereby the question of existence becomes meaningless.

Nope. You don't get to make up your own personal definition of a god.
There is no definition ("any definition") in which an entity can "exist" (by ANY definition or understanding of "existence") without also invoking the concept of time.
Where did *that* come from ? The reality in which any and all gods "exist" remains unexplained, ... therefore the concept is useless and meaningless, (incoherent).
If their concept is relegated to some sort of "supernatural" but "intermediate" being who did not create Reality ... it is still dismissed.
If it is meaningful, that entity MUST have created Reality ... and there can be no requirement for it to participate in the Reality it created. A god that "exists" *is* required to do so, (as Reality includes non-existence).

(October 7, 2018 at 11:55 pm)Khemikal Wrote: The majority of gods are not creator gods.  They may not be "worth their salt", but that doesn't make them "not gods".

Great. Then define one, coherently.
What exactly *does* make them gods ?

You did a poll of the gods ? Let's see your data.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

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What is Ignosticism? - by vulcanlogician - October 6, 2018 at 4:26 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by I_am_not_mafia - October 6, 2018 at 5:15 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by robvalue - October 6, 2018 at 5:29 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Angrboda - October 6, 2018 at 9:37 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by robvalue - October 6, 2018 at 9:44 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Angrboda - October 6, 2018 at 11:45 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Belacqua - October 6, 2018 at 8:44 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by vulcanlogician - October 7, 2018 at 9:46 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by robvalue - October 6, 2018 at 7:42 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Bucky Ball - October 7, 2018 at 11:46 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by robvalue - October 8, 2018 at 3:22 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by ignoramus - October 6, 2018 at 7:56 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by brewer - October 6, 2018 at 8:27 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by DodosAreDead - October 6, 2018 at 9:41 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by brewer - October 6, 2018 at 9:54 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by robvalue - October 6, 2018 at 9:56 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by The Grand Nudger - October 6, 2018 at 11:54 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by robvalue - October 6, 2018 at 3:14 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Devout-Humanist - October 6, 2018 at 3:28 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Angrboda - October 6, 2018 at 5:47 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Bahana - October 6, 2018 at 6:39 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by ignoramus - October 6, 2018 at 8:17 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by robvalue - October 7, 2018 at 1:10 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by ignoramus - October 6, 2018 at 9:52 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Belacqua - October 6, 2018 at 10:17 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Angrboda - October 6, 2018 at 9:59 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by vulcanlogician - October 7, 2018 at 10:59 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by The Grand Nudger - October 7, 2018 at 11:55 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by bennyboy - October 8, 2018 at 12:13 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by haig - October 8, 2018 at 12:30 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by bennyboy - October 8, 2018 at 12:49 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by haig - October 8, 2018 at 1:00 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Bucky Ball - October 8, 2018 at 11:12 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by haig - October 8, 2018 at 11:50 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Bucky Ball - October 8, 2018 at 12:28 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by haig - October 8, 2018 at 2:08 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Foxaèr - October 8, 2018 at 1:09 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by KevinM1 - October 8, 2018 at 1:34 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by The Grand Nudger - October 8, 2018 at 12:37 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Bucky Ball - October 8, 2018 at 2:02 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Angrboda - October 8, 2018 at 4:35 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Alan V - October 8, 2018 at 12:46 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by The Grand Nudger - October 8, 2018 at 2:09 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Bucky Ball - October 8, 2018 at 2:37 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by The Grand Nudger - October 8, 2018 at 6:48 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by KevinM1 - October 8, 2018 at 8:12 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by brewer - October 8, 2018 at 9:04 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Whateverist - October 8, 2018 at 11:08 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by KevinM1 - October 8, 2018 at 11:40 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Whateverist - October 9, 2018 at 12:11 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by The Grand Nudger - October 9, 2018 at 12:27 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Whateverist - October 9, 2018 at 10:31 am
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Grandizer - October 9, 2018 at 12:10 pm
RE: What is Ignosticism? - by Whateverist - October 9, 2018 at 1:31 pm

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