(January 12, 2019 at 1:29 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Atlass, we would love nothing more than to leave the middle east entirely. But sorry, with Sunnis and Shiites, Saudi Arabia and Iran, and Israel at each other's throats. Maybe it would be better if both Saudi Arabia and Iran to give up on their religious run governments. Europe went through their Christian version during the Dark Ages, and even in America because of religious bullshit, even we treated Native Americans and blacks and women like shit.
None of what I said means America gets everything right. But you are over simplifying a complex region full of many different sects and powers that are still unfortunately stuck in a dark age religious past, including too many Israelis.
The three religions have been fighting over that region for centuries. Maybe Muslims and Jews and Christians need to face the fact religion is a very easy way for powers to get their respective societies to die in these wars.
And yes Atlass, land is fought over, not just for religious reasons, but for control over resources. Other species fight for control over resources too. Mammals like elephants, and lions, especially males, can be very territorial. Humans are no different.
Without the west -especially the British Empire-, there wouldn't be either Saudi Arabia or Israel in the first place.
The Sykes-Picot agreement created all this mess; and it is a western invention executed by western hands, with the help of local traitors that acted like a proxy for the western powers behind the agreement:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sykes%E2%8..._Agreement
The native Americans were treated like shit partly because of religion, and partly because of racism. White European culture proved to be very very racist in many occasions. Now the good people in Europe started to shrink and we are seeing the disgusting rise of the right once again.
We have brains, we should share those resources not fight over them.
