I see that a lot of people really hate the idea of a God who would cast them into eternal hell fire for looking at porn or something akin, and supposedly He loves us so much and all this business. So I thought I would post my vision of the next life.
What I am not curious to hear is what I'm sure will be posted on here 1000 times, and that is fucking shit ass fuck fuck I hate this I hate that blah blah. Please do not pollute my thread with your nonsense. If you want to comment with a level head, and to say something that you are convicted about, like say how God appears evil to you etc., then do so with respect please! I will try to do the same. I know I can be an ass from time to time too, but I try. Please forgive me.
Anyway, I believe when one dies he does not perish, in the sense of disappear or something akin. Everyone passes into God's love. In fact, we are all already in the presence of God's love even now. When one passes his soul is judged by God, as to the content of its hate.
If one is void of hate, one passes into heaven, which is in fact only a more pure presence of God's love, in which one is able to more fully participate in God's love by returning His love with love.
When one passes and has some measure of hate within, but not to such a degree as to consume the soul, this one passes into purgatory, which is similar to Earth, in the sense that one is still in the presence of God's love but one does not have a completely proper relationship to the fire that is God's love. Anyone is purgatory will go to heaven, God has foreseen this, it will happen. While in purgatory you pay for your sins on Earth, that you had not already paid for on Earth, and along the way you learn more fully what it means to be loved by God, and in return to love God.
One who passes from this life and who is consumed with hate will go to hell, which, you guessed it!, is the presence of God's love. Now what has happened is that God has foreseen that this person will never under any circumstance whatsoever, short of God destroying the person's very personness, that is changing the person to such a degree that they become another person altogether, love God. Now God remember still loves them, the difference between them and those in heaven is that they return God's love with hate. This hate is very painful. It is a self-inflicted torment caused by something akin to an extreme pride, and jealousy of sorts.
Therefore, Hell is not God's hate on a person; it is God's love which is returned with hate. God would do anything short of changing a person's nature to bring them into heaven. My entire approach relies upon the mystery of free will, which makes no sense, apart from the fact that we experience it every day. But it is impossible to speculate on, as it makes no sense within the context of a Sovereign God who is omnipotent/omniscient.
I am curious, is there anyone who thinks that if God were real they would eternally hate him, even if it were painful? Also, you Theist's/agnostics what do you think heaven and hell is and why? And finally, you atheists, what do you think about this approach to heaven and hell? Do you hate it, is it nice but obviously false because God isn't real, or something else?
What I am not curious to hear is what I'm sure will be posted on here 1000 times, and that is fucking shit ass fuck fuck I hate this I hate that blah blah. Please do not pollute my thread with your nonsense. If you want to comment with a level head, and to say something that you are convicted about, like say how God appears evil to you etc., then do so with respect please! I will try to do the same. I know I can be an ass from time to time too, but I try. Please forgive me.
Anyway, I believe when one dies he does not perish, in the sense of disappear or something akin. Everyone passes into God's love. In fact, we are all already in the presence of God's love even now. When one passes his soul is judged by God, as to the content of its hate.
If one is void of hate, one passes into heaven, which is in fact only a more pure presence of God's love, in which one is able to more fully participate in God's love by returning His love with love.
When one passes and has some measure of hate within, but not to such a degree as to consume the soul, this one passes into purgatory, which is similar to Earth, in the sense that one is still in the presence of God's love but one does not have a completely proper relationship to the fire that is God's love. Anyone is purgatory will go to heaven, God has foreseen this, it will happen. While in purgatory you pay for your sins on Earth, that you had not already paid for on Earth, and along the way you learn more fully what it means to be loved by God, and in return to love God.
One who passes from this life and who is consumed with hate will go to hell, which, you guessed it!, is the presence of God's love. Now what has happened is that God has foreseen that this person will never under any circumstance whatsoever, short of God destroying the person's very personness, that is changing the person to such a degree that they become another person altogether, love God. Now God remember still loves them, the difference between them and those in heaven is that they return God's love with hate. This hate is very painful. It is a self-inflicted torment caused by something akin to an extreme pride, and jealousy of sorts.
Therefore, Hell is not God's hate on a person; it is God's love which is returned with hate. God would do anything short of changing a person's nature to bring them into heaven. My entire approach relies upon the mystery of free will, which makes no sense, apart from the fact that we experience it every day. But it is impossible to speculate on, as it makes no sense within the context of a Sovereign God who is omnipotent/omniscient.
I am curious, is there anyone who thinks that if God were real they would eternally hate him, even if it were painful? Also, you Theist's/agnostics what do you think heaven and hell is and why? And finally, you atheists, what do you think about this approach to heaven and hell? Do you hate it, is it nice but obviously false because God isn't real, or something else?
