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Nondualism vs Dualism
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RE: Nondualism vs Dualism
(April 16, 2019 at 10:44 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: But what you call "god" seems like a cop out to me. It's evading the question rather than answering it.

But, I could be wrong about that. Maybe what you call "God" is the solution to the puzzle. The real question is this: why should I accept your answer of God as the solution? What evidence or reasoning supports that thesis?

My God doesn't need acceptance. It doesn't intervene in our lives the way we would think a god should intervene, because it is not a dualistic entity. My God speaks to humans in many different ways, but has used numerous prophets. Like Jesus for example. But in Jesus case I would say that you'd have to accept Jesus Christ death as the only necessary sacrifice for humans to finally be able to say, "Enough!" Enough unnecessary bloodshed and hurt caused by us not first loving our neighbors. I accept his sacrifice along with his record as enough for me to accept him as my savior.

But I accept that Christianity is not for everyone

(April 16, 2019 at 10:39 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote:
(April 16, 2019 at 10:22 pm)Won2blv Wrote: After opening my consciousness with Ayahuasca and other psychedelics, I realized why there are so many paradoxes in science and the spiritual. I don't mean "supernatural" when I say spiritual. I'm more talking about a general personal experience held by each individual that constitutes their own personal truth. Each individual has their own universal reality where the unseen and the seen weave themselves together. We're all pretty much the same creature with the same basic needs, yet we all have something about ourselves that makes us a unique person.
Many things, and every single moment of our lives, really, all making us ever so slightly and cumulatively different from each other - and yet we remain within a few standard deviations after all of it.  Fun stuff.   

Quote:This is where I see the opening to the why the paradoxes exist. Its because we are one nondualistic  cosmic creature. There is one divine all and we are a piece of it the same as a liver cell is a piece of a human. But we are also built by little bits and pieces of bits of pieces of bits and pieces. So of course we experience a feeling of separation from our divine union with the universe, or what I call God.
You'd have to be more specific on this separation from what you call the divine.  My being built of bits and pieces of bits and pieces (so on and so forth) doesn't have the effect of disconnecting me from the sense of the numinous.  Perhaps some clarity on why that would "of course" lead to any such separation?  By what mechanism is the bits and pieces method of construction separating from a union with the universe?  

Quote:I believe that in our pre-existence (pre-bigbang) we existed as 1 solid entity built upon two perfectly symbiotic states of matter. I believe this entity held consciousness and consciously killed itself in order for more creation to spring forth. I also believe that we have the history of our making from the big bang until present written in our DNA.

Even if you think I'm full of shit, I'm curious what y'all believe concerning dualism vs nondualism. I say both
What do you base this belief on?

I base that belief only personal conscious experience
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Nondualism vs Dualism - by Won2blv - April 16, 2019 at 10:22 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by The Grand Nudger - April 16, 2019 at 10:39 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by vulcanlogician - April 16, 2019 at 10:44 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Won2blv - April 17, 2019 at 3:12 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Alan V - April 17, 2019 at 4:50 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by brewer - April 17, 2019 at 4:54 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Won2blv - April 24, 2019 at 5:04 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Succubus - April 24, 2019 at 8:31 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Won2blv - April 25, 2019 at 5:21 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Alan V - April 25, 2019 at 7:37 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Alan V - April 25, 2019 at 9:23 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Belacqua - April 16, 2019 at 10:49 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by The Grand Nudger - April 16, 2019 at 10:55 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Alan V - April 16, 2019 at 10:57 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by brewer - April 17, 2019 at 9:02 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Peebo-Thuhlu - April 17, 2019 at 10:53 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Acrobat - April 17, 2019 at 12:26 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Rahn127 - April 17, 2019 at 1:18 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2019 at 3:25 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Succubus - April 17, 2019 at 4:31 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Lemon Curry - April 17, 2019 at 7:49 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Rahn127 - April 17, 2019 at 9:03 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by chimp3 - April 17, 2019 at 9:17 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Angrboda - April 17, 2019 at 11:55 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Rahn127 - April 18, 2019 at 1:27 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Lemon Curry - April 20, 2019 at 4:30 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Simon Moon - April 20, 2019 at 9:12 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Won2blv - April 24, 2019 at 5:20 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Simon Moon - April 27, 2019 at 3:00 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Won2blv - April 29, 2019 at 1:54 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Simon Moon - April 29, 2019 at 4:21 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Won2blv - April 29, 2019 at 8:41 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Simon Moon - April 30, 2019 at 4:01 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Won2blv - May 1, 2019 at 2:07 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Simon Moon - May 1, 2019 at 7:34 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Won2blv - May 2, 2019 at 2:04 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by brewer - April 27, 2019 at 10:24 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by brewer - April 20, 2019 at 10:39 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by The Grand Nudger - April 24, 2019 at 5:09 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by The Grand Nudger - April 24, 2019 at 5:42 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by The Grand Nudger - April 26, 2019 at 12:19 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Dmitry1983 - April 26, 2019 at 2:43 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Succubus - April 26, 2019 at 2:55 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by The Grand Nudger - April 26, 2019 at 3:02 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by madog - April 26, 2019 at 4:01 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Dmitry1983 - April 26, 2019 at 4:45 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Peebo-Thuhlu - April 26, 2019 at 4:57 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Angrboda - April 26, 2019 at 9:37 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by The Grand Nudger - April 26, 2019 at 9:30 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by The Grand Nudger - April 26, 2019 at 9:48 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Alan V - April 26, 2019 at 1:58 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Amarok - April 26, 2019 at 10:41 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Jehanne - April 27, 2019 at 9:34 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by GUBU - April 27, 2019 at 12:49 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Jehanne - April 27, 2019 at 1:34 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Jehanne - April 27, 2019 at 7:54 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Angrboda - April 28, 2019 at 9:50 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Jehanne - April 28, 2019 at 10:50 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Angrboda - April 28, 2019 at 10:53 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Jehanne - April 28, 2019 at 12:21 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Angrboda - April 29, 2019 at 8:25 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Jehanne - April 29, 2019 at 9:16 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by madog - April 29, 2019 at 9:38 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Jehanne - April 30, 2019 at 9:01 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by madog - April 30, 2019 at 11:04 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Jehanne - May 1, 2019 at 9:02 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by madog - May 1, 2019 at 10:39 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Simon Moon - May 1, 2019 at 11:04 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Angrboda - May 1, 2019 at 6:12 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by madog - May 1, 2019 at 6:20 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Jehanne - May 1, 2019 at 9:40 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Peebo-Thuhlu - May 1, 2019 at 9:52 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by madog - May 1, 2019 at 10:10 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Jehanne - May 2, 2019 at 6:02 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by madog - May 2, 2019 at 8:44 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Jehanne - May 2, 2019 at 11:04 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by madog - May 2, 2019 at 11:22 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Jehanne - May 2, 2019 at 1:43 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Peebo-Thuhlu - May 2, 2019 at 2:07 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by madog - May 2, 2019 at 2:17 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Jehanne - May 2, 2019 at 2:37 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by madog - May 2, 2019 at 3:20 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Jehanne - May 2, 2019 at 4:48 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by madog - May 2, 2019 at 4:57 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Simon Moon - May 6, 2019 at 8:58 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Jehanne - May 6, 2019 at 6:33 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Peebo-Thuhlu - May 6, 2019 at 8:26 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Angrboda - May 7, 2019 at 1:49 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Jehanne - May 7, 2019 at 9:48 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Peebo-Thuhlu - May 6, 2019 at 9:37 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Angrboda - April 30, 2019 at 11:51 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Amarok - April 28, 2019 at 1:48 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Brian37 - April 28, 2019 at 11:06 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by The Grand Nudger - April 29, 2019 at 9:03 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Peebo-Thuhlu - May 1, 2019 at 10:42 am
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Rahn127 - May 1, 2019 at 1:27 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by The Grand Nudger - May 1, 2019 at 2:14 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Rahn127 - May 1, 2019 at 10:48 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Rahn127 - May 6, 2019 at 7:41 pm
RE: Nondualism vs Dualism - by Jehanne - May 6, 2019 at 9:05 pm

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