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[Serious] Good People
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RE: Good People
(May 11, 2021 at 5:13 am)Belacqua Wrote:
(May 11, 2021 at 3:35 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: I just can not get my head around the idea of some one not wanting to help their fellow peoples by slowing/limiting the spread of a lethal diseas.

At some point, if you're interested, you could address the questions in the OP. The issue isn't whether you personally can get your head around it, but the moral issue of whether everyone should be made to do it. 

The OP contained the sentence:

Quote:This thread isn't about vaccines

But you decided to make it about vaccines.

The question originally asked was this:

Quote:You are an evil person if you do not make sacrifices for the greater good. [...] It is something like forced kindness, perhaps to the exclusion of personal safety and autonomy.

The fact that you personally find it the right thing to do is unsurprising. The issue is what we should require of people who don't. Is "forced kindness" a reasonable thing?

The OP gives this example also:

Quote:China's one child policy is perhaps another example. You sacrifice your fertility for the greater good of others.

Again, the issue is not whether you can get your head around this. The issue is whether this was a reasonable thing for the Chinese government to do. If there are tangible utilitarian ends, to what extent is social pressure or governmental command justified. Is requiring vaccine shots for participation in normal life something that we have the right to demand (regardless of whether personally we think such shots are good)? Is demanding such shots substantially different from a one-child policy, from a moral point of view? 

If you want to get back on topic you could.

Ah.

I see.


Hmmm... yeah, I guess it really does suck to 'Make' individual people do what is good for multiple people.

The OP was also bandying about rape as well but I'm not going to follow any such comments further.

I think "The Grand Nudger" summed things up the best.

So I'm happy to leave it at that.



Messages In This Thread
Good People - by John 6IX Breezy - May 10, 2021 at 9:18 pm
RE: Good People - by Foxaèr - May 10, 2021 at 9:29 pm
RE: Good People - by vulcanlogician - May 10, 2021 at 9:38 pm
RE: Good People - by John 6IX Breezy - May 10, 2021 at 10:18 pm
RE: Good People - by brewer - May 10, 2021 at 11:18 pm
RE: Good People - by Rev. Rye - May 10, 2021 at 9:48 pm
RE: Good People - by John 6IX Breezy - May 10, 2021 at 11:14 pm
RE: Good People - by brewer - May 10, 2021 at 9:50 pm
RE: Good People - by Rev. Rye - May 10, 2021 at 10:28 pm
RE: Good People - by arewethereyet - May 10, 2021 at 10:57 pm
RE: Good People - by Rev. Rye - May 10, 2021 at 11:14 pm
RE: Good People - by vulcanlogician - May 10, 2021 at 11:18 pm
RE: Good People - by John 6IX Breezy - May 10, 2021 at 11:43 pm
RE: Good People - by Peebo-Thuhlu - May 10, 2021 at 11:48 pm
RE: Good People - by John 6IX Breezy - May 11, 2021 at 12:09 am
RE: Good People - by Peebo-Thuhlu - May 11, 2021 at 12:11 am
RE: Good People - by John 6IX Breezy - May 11, 2021 at 12:27 am
RE: Good People - by Peebo-Thuhlu - May 11, 2021 at 12:41 am
RE: Good People - by John 6IX Breezy - May 11, 2021 at 1:13 am
RE: Good People - by Peebo-Thuhlu - May 11, 2021 at 1:22 am
RE: Good People - by John 6IX Breezy - May 11, 2021 at 1:49 am
RE: Good People - by Peebo-Thuhlu - May 11, 2021 at 2:05 am
RE: Good People - by Belacqua - May 10, 2021 at 11:49 pm
RE: Good People - by John 6IX Breezy - May 11, 2021 at 12:48 am
RE: Good People - by Belacqua - May 11, 2021 at 1:13 am
RE: Good People - by John 6IX Breezy - May 11, 2021 at 2:11 am
RE: Good People - by Peebo-Thuhlu - May 11, 2021 at 2:14 am
RE: Good People - by John 6IX Breezy - May 11, 2021 at 2:26 am
RE: Good People - by Peebo-Thuhlu - May 11, 2021 at 2:32 am
RE: Good People - by John 6IX Breezy - May 11, 2021 at 2:39 am
RE: Good People - by John 6IX Breezy - May 11, 2021 at 2:20 am
RE: Good People - by Peebo-Thuhlu - May 11, 2021 at 2:22 am
RE: Good People - by John 6IX Breezy - May 11, 2021 at 2:33 am
RE: Good People - by Peebo-Thuhlu - May 11, 2021 at 2:37 am
RE: Good People - by Peebo-Thuhlu - May 11, 2021 at 2:43 am
RE: Good People - by John 6IX Breezy - May 11, 2021 at 2:47 am
RE: Good People - by Peebo-Thuhlu - May 11, 2021 at 3:35 am
RE: Good People - by Belacqua - May 11, 2021 at 5:13 am
RE: Good People - by Peebo-Thuhlu - May 11, 2021 at 8:56 am
RE: Good People - by John 6IX Breezy - May 11, 2021 at 11:01 am
RE: Good People - by Belacqua - May 11, 2021 at 12:52 pm
RE: Good People - by Foxaèr - May 11, 2021 at 3:47 am
RE: Good People - by The Grand Nudger - May 11, 2021 at 6:32 am
RE: Good People - by John 6IX Breezy - May 11, 2021 at 9:17 am
RE: Good People - by The Grand Nudger - May 11, 2021 at 9:22 am
RE: Good People - by John 6IX Breezy - May 11, 2021 at 9:30 am
RE: Good People - by The Grand Nudger - May 11, 2021 at 9:33 am
RE: Good People - by John 6IX Breezy - May 11, 2021 at 9:43 am
RE: Good People - by arewethereyet - May 11, 2021 at 9:47 am
RE: Good People - by brewer - May 11, 2021 at 9:51 am
RE: Good People - by The Grand Nudger - May 11, 2021 at 9:52 am
RE: Good People - by Deesse23 - May 11, 2021 at 11:24 am
RE: Good People - by John 6IX Breezy - May 11, 2021 at 12:01 pm
RE: Good People - by arewethereyet - May 11, 2021 at 12:26 pm
RE: Good People - by Deesse23 - May 11, 2021 at 12:40 pm
RE: Good People - by Peebo-Thuhlu - May 11, 2021 at 12:28 pm
RE: Good People - by Nay_Sayer - May 11, 2021 at 1:08 pm
RE: Good People - by Belacqua - May 11, 2021 at 1:56 pm
RE: Good People - by arewethereyet - May 11, 2021 at 2:04 pm
RE: Good People - by Ranjr - May 11, 2021 at 12:17 pm
RE: Good People - by The Grand Nudger - May 11, 2021 at 1:03 pm
RE: Good People - by downbeatplumb - May 11, 2021 at 1:51 pm



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