(June 15, 2021 at 12:04 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I was speaking with a long-time friend of the family, who is a practicing Jew, about prayer and why god doesn’t reveal himself to his creation. His explanation was one that I actually had never heard before. Assuming free will for the sake of the argument, I’d say it’s one of the more reasonable (maybe I should say least irrational) explanations for god’s hiddenness that I’ve heard. If our parents followed us around everywhere we went, would we ever really be free to break the rules? Thoughts?
“Just as God's purpose does not allow man to be a physical prisoner, neither does it permit him to exist in an intellectual prison. How would man behave if God were to constantly reveal Himself? Would he really be free? If man were constantly made aware that he was standing in the King's presence, could he go against His will? If God's existence were constantly apparent, this awareness would make man a prisoner.“
Meh, seems like the same old melted ice cream with a different flavor.
I have to admit, not just on this topic, since the early 2000s when I first got online and started debating theists, it never ceases to amaze me how many new ways I run into in which they move the goal posts.
This really isn't a new argument. The idea is to claim that parents have to let their children make their own mistakes. Yea ok, fine, ask this God why he allowed the Holocaust. Surely Anne Frank was evil an deserved to die. As soon as one reads that last sentence the moral justification falls apart.
"I have to let my child touch the hot pot on the stove to get them to learn their lesson" is basically what this bad argument is. Tell me what Polly Klaas did to deserve a monster dragging her out of her bedroom in the dead of night, raping and murdering her? What did Adam Walsh's kid do to deserve being raped and butchered?
The first 3 of the 10 Commandments are not about the welfare of humans, be they adults or children. They are all about kissing God's ass. God's primary goal is to have gang members. He might "MIGHT" help you out if you are loyal to him, but then again, if he thinks he can let you die, ADULT OR CHILD, regardless of how, if it brings him more attention, he will let it happen.
