Who was Jesus?

[GUBU]

I actually forgot that Ehrman thinks there was a historical Jesus.

The point I was making was, there are so many layers of obscurity, why even bother? And that applies to the historical Jesus and the legendary Jesus.

Exactly. There’s about as much chance of proving an historical Jesus by reading the Gospels as there is of proving an historical King Arthur by watching the musical ‘Camelot’.

Boru

Though you will get more entertainment and moral instruction from watching Camelot. So, a much more fruitful endeavour than reading the bible.

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Of course it's ALL bullshit. 

But it does to Christians. It's in the creeds. And getting it there was no simple matter. 
They fought over it for decades, if not centuries .... which is one of the reasons why, ... when you read in a gospel or some other "early" writing, that Jesus was literally the son of god,
you know that at the very least, the text was edited or redacted LATER, as the theological concept had not developed until late.  
If you read the proceedings of the councils they fought a LOT about it. 
You can literally read ("watch") as they (humans ... all men of course) cook up their theology in the proceedings of the Councils (you can find them on Fordham's website).
The "filioque procedit" clause is part of the dispute between the various Christianities. 
https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/ent...0the%20Son.

No, it really isn't all bullshit. It doesn't matter if Jesus was literally God's Son or not, what matters is the fact that someone was trying to teach humanity a better way of living, and gladly received (unjust) punishment for these teachings. Jesus was a class act, and it doesn't matter if not everything it says about Him in the Bible, is true. What's important, is that He was, and still is, an invaluable friend of Man, ever-willing to comfort us in times of trouble, and extend His Hand to the poor and needy......not just the financially poor and needy, but the spiritually poor and needy, as well.

If there was a real Yeshua, he wasn't trying to teach the world a better way of living. If the earliest gospel writings are historical, he was an ultra-observant jew (we'd call him ultra-orthodox in today's world) trying to make the people of Iudaea more religiously observant jews.

Christianity came much later and was built mainly to shore up the power of a temporal empire.