Mindfulness or Mindlessness?

[vulcanlogician]

Duuuude.... DLJ! How ya been? Long time no see.

And great job solving the Ship of Theseus! IDK about mind/body though. John Searle is the only philosopher I've read that was like, "yeah, I solved it. pffft." Maybe you should ask him?

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As for the poll, I think I want to say neither. "Mind" doesn't not create thoughts. That one is right out. I think the brain creates thoughts. But create might not be the best way to term it.

1) There is a causal relation between brain states and conscious states. Every thought exists because of a brain state. Period.

I think we can all agree with 1. The problem is we have no idea how the brain creates or is involved in conscious states otherwise. We only understand that there is a direct causal relation. It's kinda like if you showed an ancient person how a lamp works. They will quickly see the causal relation between turning on the light and hitting the switch, but they'd have no idea HOW the one caused the other.

We're in a similar position with consciousness.