(May 24, 2012 at 7:22 pm)Shell B Wrote: Don't be fucking absurd. Most of us have loved ones who are religious. I myself do not "hate on" (I fucking hate that term) on any particular church or religious institution. However, I will point out the flaws in ones that have them. That is not "hating." That is called being perceptive.Sure. And how much of your time do you think atheists spend "pointing out the flaws" in "theists" vs. time religious people spend pointing out the flaws in atheists? The point is that there is more negativity going one way vs. the other at least in my experience.
Quote:Get over yourself. You know how many people have murdered or mutilated their own children in the name of religion? Yeah, I think you have it backwards. Why on Earth do you insist on making statements based on absolutely nothing but your opinion whilst touting them as fact?The psychoticism and social maladjustment thing isn't my "opinion". I can get studies for you if you like. Correlation does NOT mean causation and NOT all atheists are like that but it does lend itself toward the stereotype.
Shell B Wrote:Hmmm. Proof? Name one Christian martyr that was killed by atheists. Make it a real martyr too, not some made up shit. Back up your statements please.Are you serious?
Any of the people killed in anti-religious programs listed:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism
Or if you want a more concrete example, Sister Varvara Yakovleva.
Shell B Wrote:Oh, really? Making shit up again or are we talking about Christians being killed alongside atheists in Russia? Or are we talking about non-Christians being killed elsewhere? I mean, I really want to know what the hell you are talking (read:lying) about.Just because "atheists died too" doesn't make anti-religious programs illegitimate. Some orthodox (small o) Christians died during the Inquisition too.
But yes, USSR, Cambodia, Albania, etc.
(May 24, 2012 at 8:07 pm)jackman Wrote: wow, hate-laced. doesn't sound like you "hate say this", considering you're lambasting atheists for 6 paragraphs, naming them as murderers, intolerants and violent thugs. what happened aiza?! you sounded so reasonable just yesterday.I am not lambasting atheists at all (I'm not trying to!), I used to be one. I'm just explaining where the distrust comes from. I think its dumb when people generalize atheists based on some bad apples just like I think its dumb when people generalize Christians or Muslims (and I could easily make a post about why that happens). "Understanding where distrust comes from" is a LOT different than agreeing with it. I think I answered the rest of your questions in my reply to ShellB
Mary Immaculate, star of the morning
Chosen before the creation began
Chosen to bring for your bridal adorning
Woe to the serpent and rescue to man.
Sinners, we honor your sinless perfection;
Fallen and weak, for your pity we plead;
Grand us the shield of your sovereign protection,
Measure your aid by the depth of our need.
Bend from your throne at the voice of our crying,
Bend to this earth which your footsteps have trod;
Stretch out your arms to us, living and dying,
Mary Immaculate, Mother of God.
Chosen before the creation began
Chosen to bring for your bridal adorning
Woe to the serpent and rescue to man.
Sinners, we honor your sinless perfection;
Fallen and weak, for your pity we plead;
Grand us the shield of your sovereign protection,
Measure your aid by the depth of our need.
Bend from your throne at the voice of our crying,
Bend to this earth which your footsteps have trod;
Stretch out your arms to us, living and dying,
Mary Immaculate, Mother of God.
