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everyone (else) seems to be hating on atheists
RE: everyone (else) seems to be hating on atheists
(June 3, 2012 at 11:31 pm)Epimethean Wrote: Since you did not include the full texts of either article, and since the latter seemed a bit more comprehensive, I will have to humor you as it were. However, here is some food for thought. It is a very unbiased article, and, as much as it supports a modicum of what you want to be true, its conclusions also point out some things you may want to consider before you wax smarmy about religion.
I'm not "waxing smarmy". I'm stating what has been shown by the current research available. You were the one who refused to accept peer-reviewed and published scientific papers because they came from eeevil Catholic universities, and comparing religion to "the Easter Bunny", so you have little room to complain when I point out that religious people are better socially adjusted, mentally/physically healthier, more empathetic/charitable, etc.

Your first link says absolutely nothing about "mind-numbing effect of rituals" or what have you so I guess by "almost" you really meant "almost". Religion is a collection of cultural systems, belief systems, and worldviews that relate humanity to spirituality and, sometimes, to moral values. Some involve ritual and others do not. Also its weird that you talk about people "trapped" in the "web" of religion when religious people cope better with illness, are more likely to see their doctors and are much less likely to commit suicide even when they are depressed.

Quote:Not surprisingly, OCD sufferers tend to suffer more when religious, with Catholics comprising the worst affected group
No, not surprising. In Catholic community its known as the "scruples", or scrupulosity. Tongue

OCD is characterized by very high conscientiousness (self-control, carefulness, thoughtfulness), which as we already noted, is much more prevalent in religious. Irreligious would more commonly suffer from the exact opposite--a higher degree of carelessness (which, when combined with their lower agreeableness scores results in the same psychoticism personality results we see--which in turns creates a proclivity toward aggression and impulsiveness which we also see in this study.

But as I said, not all atheists are irreligious.
Mary Immaculate, star of the morning
Chosen before the creation began
Chosen to bring for your bridal adorning
Woe to the serpent and rescue to man.

Sinners, we honor your sinless perfection;
Fallen and weak, for your pity we plead;
Grand us the shield of your sovereign protection,
Measure your aid by the depth of our need.

Bend from your throne at the voice of our crying,
Bend to this earth which your footsteps have trod;
Stretch out your arms to us, living and dying,
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RE: everyone (else) seems to be hating on atheists - by Aiza - June 4, 2012 at 12:22 am



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