The Stage is Yours.

[fr0d0]

"exists as" not exists in reality. I'll forgive your poor grasp of the language smiler

That can mean either of the two below:
(A) God doesn't exist in reality, but exists only in the metaphysical world; or
(B) That God just cannot be proven to exist in reality.

I believe that you're implying letter B, most likely.

B is correct

But, whichever it is, they both clearly and logically contradict your statement that God is "directly and personally knowable" as you said earlier (in post # 151):

(In Xtianity God is directly and personally knowable)

And that is because you believe that Jesus is God, that Jesus is fully man and fully God at the same time, that the sacrifice of Jesus is actually the sacrifice of God, and that people have seen him and met him in real life. Hence your statement that the Christian God is "directly and personally knowable."

No it does not directly logically contradict anything. You simply don't understand what I mean by directly and personally knowable.

You think there is some physical (empirically provable) link between humans and God? Then this is your ignorance of Xtianity showing again.

But, if the Christian God is directly and personally knowable, then it is definitely contradictory to say that His existence cannot be proven in reality.

Only if you think that direct and personal = empirically provable. Which it cannot be.

Similarly, if the Christian God is directly and personally knowable, then belief in Him cannot be just a metaphysical stance.

It is only a metaphysical stance. That direct and personal relationship transcends the physical barrier. There is no way to prove empirically that God contacts you, or that you contact him. If you believe that, then your are also trashing your own belief and are declaring atheism here. Or at best deism.

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*search ninja*

God's existence can't be known. Bomb proof.

https://atheistforums.org/thread-5979-po...#pid116956

Belief is a metaphysical stance. Welcome to the dark side.

https://atheistforums.org/thread-7634-po...#pid154351

Those two comments from different threads clearly contradict your statement that God is directly and personally knowable.

No, they do not. You are simply ignorant of the ideas.

Proof:
God is directly and personally knowable =/= God's existence can't be known
God is directly and personally knowable =/= metaphysical

You confuse empirical with non empirical. Not an error I'd expect someone supposedly familiar with a metaphysical stance, such as yourself. But perhaps you manage to believe in Allah without understanding him to be a transcendent being. I would suggest you look into your belief stance and perhaps re-evaluate your position.

I'm sorry, fr0d0, but I can't help but think that you're intentionally evasive and dishonest in your replies, especially knowing how many times you contradict yourself.

I take that very seriously and can only excuse you as being completely ignorant. From what you've stated above, that seems to be true.

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Meanwhile, give me 2 weeks and I'll get back to you

Take it easy on yourself. If you do reply after 2 weeks (or whatever amount of time), then I would like you reply to this post as well, not just the one above you.

It was a joke Rayaan. You've taken an age to reply, which is perfectly fine. Mine was a joke in return. Are you laughing or smiling? I can't tell.

Here's an escape trick for you:
If you think that you are unable to satisfactorily address my comments, then pretend as if you forgot to reply in this thread after the 2 weeks. Don't worry, though, because I'll forgive you. =D

Thanks for the insult. Join the queue. Asshole.