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How do I know the things I know?
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RE: How do I know the things I know?
(October 7, 2012 at 2:37 am)Akincana Krishna dasa Wrote: The entirety of the conscious experience of our lives constitutes the preliminary empirical data. You may notice, for example, that you exist. Why? Everyone has to die. Why? No one wants suffering, but suffering comes. Why? I am a conscious entity forced to suffer a troublesome existence - this experience leads us to ask who we are and what we're meant for.
...and make up an answer if we can't find one.

Akincana Krishna dasa Wrote:Vedic knowledge offers both a theoretical explanation of reality, as well as a methodology for how to realize ourselves. I'm happy to elaborate on this, if interested. The simplest summary of the worldview offered by Vedic knowledge is given in the Bhagavad Gita.

Proof is when an aspirant achieves self-realization by these standard spiritual methodologies, which includes the reawakening of her eternal relationship with the supreme consciousness.

You must first demonstrate that either this being exists, or that your 'connection' is real.

Akincana Krishna dasa Wrote:
(October 7, 2012 at 2:28 am)IATIA Wrote: Are not saints dead people?
I don't know if someone uses the word that way.

Well he's technically right. One can only be named a saint post-mortem.

Akincana Krishna dasa Wrote:A saint is a person with saintly qualities. Krishna says this in Bhagavad Gita:

"Fearlessness; purification of one's existence; cultivation of spiritual knowledge; charity; self-control; performance of sacrifice; study of the Vedas; austerity; simplicity; nonviolence; truthfulness; freedom from anger; renunciation; tranquillity; aversion to faultfinding; compassion for all living entities; freedom from covetousness; gentleness; modesty; steady determination; vigor; forgiveness; fortitude; cleanliness; and freedom from envy and from the passion for honor -- these transcendental qualities, O son of Bharata, belong to godly men endowed with divine nature." (BG 16.1-3)

I've met several genuine saints in my life.

I still don't understand what 'spiritual knowledge' is supposed to be, aside from, say, reading a holy book. Study of the Vedas is a seperate qualifier, though, so I'm assuming that isn't the case. How exactly can someone have 'freedom from anger'? Does this mean that they are literally incapable of becoming angry, or simply that they have good control over it? Also, does this mean that non-saints can neer detect god?
John Adams Wrote:The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
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RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Minimalist - October 5, 2012 at 10:32 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Darkstar - October 5, 2012 at 10:34 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Minimalist - October 5, 2012 at 10:38 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Shell B - October 5, 2012 at 11:27 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Zevaeros - October 5, 2012 at 11:29 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Shell B - October 5, 2012 at 11:35 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by IATIA - October 6, 2012 at 12:21 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by IATIA - October 6, 2012 at 11:13 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Darkstar - October 7, 2012 at 2:02 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by IATIA - October 7, 2012 at 2:19 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Darkstar - October 7, 2012 at 2:49 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by IATIA - October 7, 2012 at 12:36 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Darkstar - October 7, 2012 at 2:27 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by IATIA - October 7, 2012 at 2:28 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Whateverist - October 7, 2012 at 3:35 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Darkstar - October 7, 2012 at 11:58 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Darkstar - October 8, 2012 at 11:28 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by MysticKnight - October 8, 2012 at 6:56 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Darkstar - October 8, 2012 at 7:13 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by IATIA - October 8, 2012 at 7:46 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Angrboda - October 27, 2012 at 4:22 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Edwardo Piet - October 25, 2012 at 4:32 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Shell B - October 6, 2012 at 12:17 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Darkstar - October 6, 2012 at 1:47 am
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RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Simon Moon - October 6, 2012 at 2:24 pm
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RE: How do I know the things I know? - by liam - October 24, 2012 at 7:14 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Darkstar - October 24, 2012 at 7:16 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Minimalist - October 6, 2012 at 1:40 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Annik - October 6, 2012 at 2:58 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Shell B - October 6, 2012 at 3:12 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by IATIA - October 7, 2012 at 2:08 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by The Grand Nudger - October 8, 2012 at 12:21 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by The Grand Nudger - October 8, 2012 at 10:07 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2012 at 10:39 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Darkstar - October 24, 2012 at 11:35 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Cyberman - October 25, 2012 at 4:51 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by IATIA - October 25, 2012 at 3:54 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Darkstar - October 25, 2012 at 7:40 pm

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