My dumbass parents doubt evolution

[thesummerqueen]

Sounds like someone doesn't understand what the fuck science is.

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Gravity isn't science. Gravity is a Law imposed on our Universe.
Science presumes gravity exists, but cannot cause gravity. We believe gravity exists based on experiences of it, but cannot prove it without arguing in circles.

No one said science caused gravity. Gravity is understood THROUGH science. Science is both a process and a tool kit.

2) Same as above for Logic

I'll let the people who enjoy the mental masturbation take that one on.

3) Historical Truths - you cannot prove most of the past by science. Prove Napoleon rode a horse on April 6... using science?

The scientific method and related tests developed through science allow us to confirm data or not. Most of the past has to be confirmed by science, either by carbon dating or paleo-botany, paleontology, etc.

4) You cannot prove epistemological truths by science. You cannot prove the external world is real or that other minds objectively exist as something other than deliverance of our own chemical delusion - using science.

Science is a method used to help remove our personal, chemical-derived biases from observation.

5) You cannot prove Beethoven was a talented composer by science.

Subjective, as all art is - science has nothing to do with that at all.

6) You cannot prove moral knowledge by science. Try proving that raping children is wrong by scientific testing. Do you not believe raping children is wrong?

Science can be used to test whether or not something causes pain and suffering, which is the measure most of us use for making our subsequent moral beliefs. Again, it's a process, not a set of beliefs.

7) You cannot prove your life has intrinsic value by science. Do you believe your life has no intrinsic value? Do you believe your life only has extrinsic make-believe value?

I'm quite willing to bet "God" is your ultimate answer to this one.

8) You cannot prove science is valid by science. You would be arguing in a circle.

9) You cannot prove universal negatives by science. That alone, would be most truths.

Do I need to continue?

This modern notion that science is omnipotent is terribly misguided.
Most truth cannot be accessed by science. Science is a useful enterprise, but it is very limited. It's extremely misguided to believe that only scientifically validated truths are worthy of belief.

Yup, sounds like god was the answer to all this too - which is hilarious since God is the circular argument that's supposed to replace science.