muhammeds purpose

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You just wasted your time typing all of that because i already said im not arguing about the quran with you, im arguing that when you say muhammed marrying a 9 year old isnt an example of muhammeds youre wrong, because its an action and course of conduct carried out by muhammed, an example is a code of conduct that is an ideal, should be copied.

What you mean when you say im quoting the definition of example out of context is that this definition would mean the quran is wrong so you have to change the definition to make the quran right.

You might have a point if the verse specifically said "muhammed is a good example of how to follow commands" but it doesnt


There has certainly been for you in the Messenger of Allah an excellent pattern for anyone whose hope is in Allah and the Last Day and [who] remembers Allah often.
Muhsin Khan
Indeed in the Messenger of Allah (Muhammad SAW) you have a good example to follow for him who hopes in (the Meeting with) Allah and the Last Day and remembers Allah much.
Pickthall
Verily in the messenger of Allah ye have a good example for him who looketh unto Allah and the Last Day, and remembereth Allah much.
Yusuf Ali
Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah.
Shakir
Certainly you have in the Messenger of Allah an excellent exemplar for him who hopes in Allah and the latter day and remembers Allah much.
Dr. Ghali
Indeed you have already had a fair example, in the Messenger of Allah, for whoever hopes for Allah and the Last Day and remembers Allah much.


If you can show me where in the verse it specifically mentions commands then you have a point, if im correct and it doesnt mention commands then youre wrong

As i said though i dont even really want to go and argue about the quran, i just said you were wrong about how an action muhammed does cant be considered an example. It can be and it doesnt have to be a command simple as that.

Unless you think the quran forgot to add the words "of how to follow commands" in the verse, maybe they did just forget to add those words

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The man is running a marathon.

The definition of running here means to sprint.

The man is running for president

In the context of the verse show me how example means "good at following commands"
The verse doesnt even use the word commands, it doesnt say muhammed was good at following commands it doesnt say to follow muhammeds commands, it used the word example. When you say it does mean muhammed was good at following commands that isnt you getting things in the right context thats just you adding words to a verse which doesnt contain the words you want it to contain.


O you who believe! Obey Allah and obey the Messenger (Muhammad SAW), and those of you (Muslims) who are in authority. (And) if you differ in anything amongst yourselves, refer it to Allah and His Messenger (SAW), if you believe in Allah and in the Last Day. That is better and more suitable for final determination.

This is the verse you were talking about when you say this proves the word "example" means good at following commands, now this verse DOES say follow allahs and muhammeds commands, but then how can somone be a perfect example worthy of copying, a person which you should mimic as an absolute perfect example of what to do, if god has already commanded that people cannot marry the same amount of wives as muhammed.
Its the equivilent of saying, do exactly what he does hes the perfect example, dont do exactly as he does though.

If god did intend muhammed to be the perfect example of how to live then he wouldnt have allowed muhammed to have more wives than everyone else, because then he is no longer an example to copy and to mimic.