1984 & A/S/K revisited

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1984 & A/S/K revisited

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RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited

April 15, 2013 at 12:46 pm

(April 15, 2013 at 7:27 am)Esquilax Wrote:
(April 15, 2013 at 2:10 am)Godschild Wrote: Your correct, the angels were created into the presence of God and yes later they rejected Him. They do not have a chance at salvation, they are doomed, there's a high price for rejecting God after having knowledge of Him. You need to remember the angels were the originators of sin.

So what's the difference between angels and humans, in this regard? You're literally contradicting yourself: knowledge of god would, to you, breach free will, only it won't in cases like the fallen angels. How do you keep these two competing, mutually exclusive ideas in your head?

If you're seeking a career in the circus of apologetics, it's required of you to know how to juggle cognitive-dissonant beliefs as well as the standard mental gymnastics all believers are taught. Sorry, but try applying next year maybe?

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle

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1984 & A/S/K revisited - by FallentoReason - April 9, 2013 at 12:55 am

RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited - by Undeceived - April 9, 2013 at 2:09 am

RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited - by FallentoReason - April 9, 2013 at 2:13 am

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