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Iesou Chresto -
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RE: Iesou Chresto -
(September 28, 2013 at 2:50 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Indeed.

But there is an interesting thing with this Chrestus shit. Not only does Suetonius mention "Chrestus" in Rome in Claudius' reign but ultra violet photographs of the only surviving manuscript of Tacitus' Annales show that the word he used was "chrestianos" which a later scribe clumsily tried to erase to make "christianos."

But there are at least two instances of the name "Chrestus" being used in Asia Minor in the first century BC and in those cases it seems to be in the literal sense of "the Good." (Socrates Chrestus and Mithradates Chrestus) and then there is the Roman funerary inscription which must pre-date 37 AD because it refers to a slave by the name of Faustus who belongs to Antonia Minor who buys a funeral urn from a man named Jucundus Chrestiani.

Chrestus, or Chrestianos was being used as a cognomen among the lower classes in Rome long before the story - even if the NT is taken at face value which would be stupid beyond the point of stupidity - could have spread to Rome itself.

Certainly in the early first century Chrestus was not a misspelling of Christos. Later on, it appears, xtian scribes tried to correct the "error" whenever they came across it and the correction may have been innocent. They may have believed that it was a simple spelling error.

But, like "where" and "whore" these are completely separate ideas with one letter different and in both cases it makes a difference.

This whole thing reminds me of when a preacher or some big doctorate of theology wants to push a given idea or doctrine that is not supported by the bible he will go well out of his way to support a shoe string of an idea with all sorts of unnamed historical texts and 'common usages, of a given term not one of his followers will EVER care to question. I have you the kudo because you now have fully become what you curse and spit at in Christianity.

Great job Minnie! If your not careful you might wind up with an doctorate of divinity from an online school that these 'snake oil salesmen' tend to apply for.
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Iesou Chresto - - by Minimalist - September 28, 2013 at 12:23 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Tonus - September 28, 2013 at 12:55 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Ryantology - April 21, 2014 at 1:35 am
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Cyberman - September 28, 2013 at 1:49 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Zen Badger - September 28, 2013 at 6:30 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Minimalist - September 28, 2013 at 2:50 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Drich - September 28, 2013 at 3:57 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Cyberman - September 28, 2013 at 3:13 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Minimalist - September 28, 2013 at 3:34 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Minimalist - September 28, 2013 at 3:59 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Drich - September 28, 2013 at 4:32 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by truthBtold - February 20, 2014 at 1:42 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Cyberman - September 28, 2013 at 4:22 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Minimalist - September 28, 2013 at 4:42 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by LastPoet - September 28, 2013 at 6:25 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by The Reality Salesman - September 28, 2013 at 6:37 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Minimalist - September 28, 2013 at 6:42 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by The Reality Salesman - September 29, 2013 at 6:50 am
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Tonus - September 29, 2013 at 7:42 am
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by The Reality Salesman - September 29, 2013 at 7:46 am
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Minimalist - September 29, 2013 at 11:52 am
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Cyberman - September 29, 2013 at 12:11 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Minimalist - September 29, 2013 at 12:41 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Cyberman - September 29, 2013 at 1:22 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Minimalist - September 29, 2013 at 1:24 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Cyberman - September 29, 2013 at 1:25 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Minimalist - September 29, 2013 at 7:28 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Mark Fulton - April 22, 2014 at 3:55 am
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Minimalist - September 30, 2013 at 12:04 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Minimalist - February 20, 2014 at 1:34 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by LastPoet - February 20, 2014 at 1:51 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by KichigaiNeko - February 20, 2014 at 9:06 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Minimalist - February 20, 2014 at 2:06 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by LastPoet - February 20, 2014 at 2:10 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Cyberman - February 20, 2014 at 2:10 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Minimalist - February 20, 2014 at 2:21 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Jackalope - February 20, 2014 at 3:12 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Cyberman - February 20, 2014 at 3:46 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by LastPoet - February 20, 2014 at 3:49 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Cyberman - February 20, 2014 at 3:57 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Minimalist - February 20, 2014 at 11:07 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by KichigaiNeko - February 21, 2014 at 7:02 am
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Mark Fulton - April 20, 2014 at 7:42 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Minimalist - April 20, 2014 at 7:59 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Mark Fulton - April 20, 2014 at 8:04 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Minimalist - April 20, 2014 at 8:13 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Mark Fulton - April 21, 2014 at 1:25 am
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Minimalist - April 21, 2014 at 1:51 am
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Confused Ape - April 21, 2014 at 4:12 am
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Minimalist - April 21, 2014 at 12:12 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Cyberman - April 21, 2014 at 12:52 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Minimalist - April 21, 2014 at 2:57 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Minimalist - April 22, 2014 at 11:20 am
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Confused Ape - April 22, 2014 at 12:38 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Mark Fulton - April 22, 2014 at 5:38 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Minimalist - April 22, 2014 at 6:31 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Mark Fulton - April 22, 2014 at 7:29 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Confused Ape - April 24, 2014 at 8:43 am
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Minimalist - April 22, 2014 at 10:43 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Minimalist - April 24, 2014 at 11:16 am
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Confused Ape - April 24, 2014 at 1:36 pm
RE: Iesou Chresto - - by Tonus - April 24, 2014 at 1:09 pm



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