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God is god, and we are not god
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RE: God is god, and we are not god
(December 31, 2013 at 12:20 pm)Drich Wrote: "free will" as most understand it is a greek philosphy and not a biblical concept. Matter of fact we are told several times in the bible we are slaves who's master is sin. (Meaning we can not help but to sin.) That is why Christ died to provide attonement. In this life we are only free to make one real choice and that is to accept attonement or not. In essence to be freed from sin.

This says we are fated to fail, and always make the wrong choice. But it also says we can choose correctly, by choosing to believe in Christ. Those two statements are irreconcilable.

Either we're fated to fail, and will fail to choose Christ, in which case God is punishing us for losing a rigged game.

Or your claim that we are fated to fail is in error.

If the bible does say both of these, then the bible is shown to be inconsistent and wrong.


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RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Marvin - December 28, 2013 at 9:57 am
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Drich - December 31, 2013 at 12:20 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Whateverist - December 31, 2013 at 1:21 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by IATIA - January 1, 2014 at 5:24 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Neo-Scholastic - January 1, 2014 at 4:26 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Angrboda - January 1, 2014 at 11:56 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Cyberman - December 31, 2013 at 12:32 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Drich - January 1, 2014 at 2:59 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Esquilax - January 1, 2014 at 9:55 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Cinjin - January 1, 2014 at 10:02 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Drich - January 3, 2014 at 11:28 am
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Cyberman - January 3, 2014 at 6:29 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Drich - January 4, 2014 at 1:00 am
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by StoryBook - January 6, 2014 at 4:54 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Drich - January 6, 2014 at 5:20 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by StoryBook - January 6, 2014 at 5:47 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Zen Badger - January 2, 2014 at 5:57 am
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Neo-Scholastic - January 2, 2014 at 3:07 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by houseofcantor - January 2, 2014 at 3:28 pm
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RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Godlesspanther - January 2, 2014 at 8:57 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Neo-Scholastic - January 3, 2014 at 1:00 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Cyberman - January 6, 2014 at 4:22 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Crossless1 - January 6, 2014 at 4:32 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Drich - January 6, 2014 at 4:37 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Cyberman - January 6, 2014 at 4:37 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Cyberman - January 6, 2014 at 4:38 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Drich - January 6, 2014 at 4:51 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by Cyberman - January 6, 2014 at 4:53 pm
RE: God is god, and we are not god - by The Valkyrie - January 6, 2014 at 5:40 pm

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