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Abortions
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RE: Abortions
(December 3, 2009 at 6:32 pm)Meatball Wrote: I think from a legal standpoint, laws need to be based on arguments that are logical or scientific. It's an emotional topic, yes, but the law needs to draw a line, that's why it's there.

When you start mixing emotion and laws, things get crazy. Like the abortion debate.

I think the law, as it stands, is good. It allows woman to have an abortion within a reasonable amount of time, and should the pregnancy be life threatening, or the child too deformed to survive, late term abortions are performed. So yes, the legal standpoint should not be based on emotion.

However, the process of getting an abortion is an emotional one. Hence I argue, abortions should be legal but contraceptives and prevention of unwanted pregnancies should be the focus in helping woman, especially underprivileged woman. The abortion debate is multi-faceted and yes, it has an emotional component. You can't escape that.
(December 3, 2009 at 10:22 pm)littlegrimlin1 Wrote: If he thought of leaving in advance, then he shouldn't have told her he wanted it... make it, then wait until the very end to leave. He shouldv'e at least told her 3-4 months before the birth in advance that he didn't want it then. They couldv'e aborted and be done with it.

People make decisions all the time that they regret. The man could have been sincere but the when the moment came, he ran.

It would be nice if people acted rational and logical all the time, clearly thought out their actions and the consequences for them. Of course if a couple fucks up (and I mean literally) they have a track record of not being the "thinking ahead type."

Another way to look at, I was in a car accident this summer on my bike. Woman opened a door without looking, I clipped it and crashed. Got nasty cuts and bruises, brakes jammed. The woman asked me if I wanted help, but I refused. I was so shaken up and distraught I told her to leave. People came to me and told me I should call the police. I refused. My natural reaction was for everyone to leave me alone so I could lick my wounds in peace. Later on as I waited for my mother to pick me up, I realized that I should have taken the woman's information and had her pay to fix my bike. Not only that, if I needed to go to the hospital, she should be responsible for that. I didn't think. I acted in the moment, the logic didn't come till later.

This is what I mean when I say that the decision for abortion is emotional. While my example isn't perfectly related to what it's like to have an unwanted pregnancy, the point remains. Woman aren't going to be thinking 100% clearly about their options, they're vulnerable. The fathers could be the same exact way. If rational heads prevailed, then couples would discuss the problem and come to an agreement. But that's not life, unfortunately.
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." Benjamin Franklin

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Messages In This Thread
Abortions - by littlegrimlin1 - December 2, 2009 at 8:00 pm
RE: Abortions - by fr0d0 - December 2, 2009 at 8:10 pm
RE: Abortions - by Autumnlicious - December 2, 2009 at 8:11 pm
RE: Abortions - by Rhage - December 2, 2009 at 8:59 pm
RE: Abortions - by theVOID - December 2, 2009 at 10:54 pm
RE: Abortions - by Minimalist - December 2, 2009 at 10:55 pm
RE: Abortions - by binny - December 2, 2009 at 10:58 pm
RE: Abortions - by littlegrimlin1 - December 2, 2009 at 11:32 pm
RE: Abortions - by Amphora - December 3, 2009 at 1:45 am
RE: Abortions - by leo-rcc - December 3, 2009 at 4:55 am
RE: Abortions - by Violet - December 3, 2009 at 2:02 pm
RE: Abortions - by Pippy - December 3, 2009 at 9:27 am
RE: Abortions - by rjh4 - December 3, 2009 at 12:32 pm
RE: Abortions - by binny - December 3, 2009 at 12:31 pm
RE: Abortions - by leo-rcc - December 3, 2009 at 12:50 pm
RE: Abortions - by binny - December 3, 2009 at 1:17 pm
RE: Abortions - by Rhizomorph13 - December 3, 2009 at 1:37 pm
RE: Abortions - by leo-rcc - December 3, 2009 at 2:05 pm
RE: Abortions - by Violet - December 3, 2009 at 2:19 pm
RE: Abortions - by Violet - December 3, 2009 at 2:10 pm
RE: Abortions - by leo-rcc - December 3, 2009 at 2:19 pm
RE: Abortions - by Violet - December 3, 2009 at 2:50 pm
RE: Abortions - by Rhizomorph13 - December 3, 2009 at 1:01 pm
RE: Abortions - by Meatball - December 3, 2009 at 1:53 pm
RE: Abortions - by Eilonnwy - December 3, 2009 at 1:55 pm
RE: Abortions - by binny - December 3, 2009 at 1:57 pm
RE: Abortions - by Rhizomorph13 - December 3, 2009 at 2:09 pm
RE: Abortions - by Rhizomorph13 - December 3, 2009 at 2:00 pm
RE: Abortions - by leo-rcc - December 3, 2009 at 2:21 pm
RE: Abortions - by leo-rcc - December 3, 2009 at 2:57 pm
RE: Abortions - by Violet - December 3, 2009 at 3:06 pm
RE: Abortions - by leo-rcc - December 3, 2009 at 3:30 pm
RE: Abortions - by Violet - December 3, 2009 at 3:50 pm
RE: Abortions - by Eilonnwy - December 3, 2009 at 3:11 pm
RE: Abortions - by leo-rcc - December 3, 2009 at 3:24 pm
RE: Abortions - by Violet - December 3, 2009 at 3:34 pm
RE: Abortions - by Eilonnwy - December 3, 2009 at 4:15 pm
RE: Abortions - by Craveman - December 3, 2009 at 3:26 pm
RE: Abortions - by leo-rcc - December 3, 2009 at 3:43 pm
RE: Abortions - by Violet - December 3, 2009 at 4:47 pm
RE: Abortions - by leo-rcc - December 3, 2009 at 5:44 pm
RE: Abortions - by Meatball - December 3, 2009 at 5:02 pm
RE: Abortions - by Eilonnwy - December 3, 2009 at 6:18 pm
RE: Abortions - by binny - December 3, 2009 at 6:45 pm
RE: Abortions - by Meatball - December 3, 2009 at 6:32 pm
RE: Abortions - by Eilonnwy - December 3, 2009 at 11:17 pm
RE: Abortions - by Eilonnwy - December 3, 2009 at 7:28 pm
RE: Abortions - by Amphora - December 3, 2009 at 10:00 pm
RE: Abortions - by littlegrimlin1 - December 3, 2009 at 10:22 pm
RE: Abortions - by binny - December 4, 2009 at 1:46 am
RE: Abortions - by littlegrimlin1 - December 3, 2009 at 11:57 pm
RE: Abortions - by Eilonnwy - December 4, 2009 at 9:14 am
RE: Abortions - by Dotard - December 5, 2009 at 9:08 am
RE: Abortions - by binny - December 5, 2009 at 1:50 pm
RE: Abortions - by littlegrimlin1 - December 5, 2009 at 11:25 am



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