(April 27, 2014 at 9:02 am)Confused Ape Wrote: [quote='Riketto' pid='657849' dateline='1398583667']
Spirituality and altered states of consciousness due to artificial means
have little in common
I wouldn't know which one came first.
Quote:In that case you can't claim that all religions have popped up out of spirituality.
You are making a bit of confusion.
You are talking about shamanic experiences and these
experiences always go hand in hand with hallucinogens.
Religions on the other hand do not rely on hallucinogens
so my claim regards religions not shamanic experiences.
(April 27, 2014 at 3:27 am)Riketto Wrote: In tantric meditation that Shiva taught you need a mantra or sound that goes on when you inhale and exhale while concentrating on a particular cakra.
Quote:So when did Shiva first teach tantric meditation and who did he teach it to?
Shiva teach meditation using a mantra in tune with those times and places and to those people who had a different stage of consciousness.
The mantra is like a combination to open a safe.
You can have countless combination but only one is able to open the safe.
My mantra and my combination is useless to you and yours is useless to me.
At the same time the mantras given 7000 years ago are useless these days.
Quote:World's oldest ritual discovered. Worshipped the python 70,000 years ago
I am not really worry about what people were worshipping ages ago.
Is not any good to me except for curiosity.
Quote:Various mammals are omnivorous in the wild, such as the Hominidae (which includes humans, chimpanzees, orangutans, and gorillas)
Mother nature never goes wrong she build up creature
able to deal with a particular attitude.
As i already said many times if we would be omnivore
we would be able to deal with saturated fats, cholesterol
and toxins but we are not so it is obvious that we are not omnivore.
Quote:All this suggests that it's best no to be dogmatic about what humans are supposed to eat.
The evidence is there for all to see.
If we would be omnivore the world, the hospitals, the nursing homes,
the jails would not be full of physically and mentally sick people.
Evidence is one thing dogma is a different thing.
Ciao