RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
April 22, 2014 at 12:21 pm
(This post was last modified: April 22, 2014 at 1:05 pm by Coffee Jesus.)
Verily, verily, I forgive you, Bad Wolf.
A hybrid zone forms when a reproductive barrier, usually a geographic barrier, separates a population of animals for so long that they evolve into different species or different subspecies. If the barrier disappears, they might mate again, and they might produce hybrid offspring. The area where their territories overlap is called the "hybrid zone".
Most animals of different species cannot impregnate one another, but these animals are closely related enough to impregnate eachother. However, hybrid offspring are often infertile and thus incapable of passing on their hybrid genetics. That's why mules are sterile; mules are donkey-horse hybrids. If the hybrids are infertile, the two populations won't merge back together, and the "hybrid zone" will persist. There are various examples of hybrid zones. I already mentioned the grolar bears (polar bear grizzly bear hybrids). Another example is the the yellow-bellied and fire-bellied toads. Here's a scientific article on them: The mating call of hybrids of the fire-bellied toad and yellow-bellied toad (Bombina bombina (L.), Bombina v. variegata (L.), discoglossidae, anura)
This ties into the broader concept of species distribution. Closely related species tend to be nearby one another. Here is a very shocking example that I have in my notes.
"The Isthmus of Panama is the land bridge that connects North and South America. It started to form 10 million years ago. There are 15 species of snapping shrimp on each side of the Isthmus, and genetic analysis shows that each species is most closely related to another species on the other side of the barrier. The formation of the Isthmus split 15 species into 30."
The source should be dedicated to honest investigation, not dedicated to verifying what they already believe. Read it again. They're primary goal is to show that the Bible be shown inerrant, and that evolution be exposed as a misrepresentation of our true origin. That doesn't sound like honest inquiry to me.
(April 22, 2014 at 11:32 am)Revelation777 Wrote:I didn't ask about the Cambrian explosion. I asked about hybrid zones.(April 21, 2014 at 4:14 pm)Coffee Jesus Wrote: I will do him a favor and mention the Cambrian explosion. Lots of missing links there.
It's obvious that what actually happened is God over-poured his coffee beans and had a sudden burst of design ideas. But how do we explain hybrid zones? Why would God place two different species right next to eachother, and program them to mate with eachother when it would only produce infertile offspring?
Understanding the Cambrian explosion. http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles...ion-causes
A hybrid zone forms when a reproductive barrier, usually a geographic barrier, separates a population of animals for so long that they evolve into different species or different subspecies. If the barrier disappears, they might mate again, and they might produce hybrid offspring. The area where their territories overlap is called the "hybrid zone".
Most animals of different species cannot impregnate one another, but these animals are closely related enough to impregnate eachother. However, hybrid offspring are often infertile and thus incapable of passing on their hybrid genetics. That's why mules are sterile; mules are donkey-horse hybrids. If the hybrids are infertile, the two populations won't merge back together, and the "hybrid zone" will persist. There are various examples of hybrid zones. I already mentioned the grolar bears (polar bear grizzly bear hybrids). Another example is the the yellow-bellied and fire-bellied toads. Here's a scientific article on them: The mating call of hybrids of the fire-bellied toad and yellow-bellied toad (Bombina bombina (L.), Bombina v. variegata (L.), discoglossidae, anura)
This ties into the broader concept of species distribution. Closely related species tend to be nearby one another. Here is a very shocking example that I have in my notes.
"The Isthmus of Panama is the land bridge that connects North and South America. It started to form 10 million years ago. There are 15 species of snapping shrimp on each side of the Isthmus, and genetic analysis shows that each species is most closely related to another species on the other side of the barrier. The formation of the Isthmus split 15 species into 30."
(April 22, 2014 at 11:32 am)Revelation777 Wrote:(April 21, 2014 at 5:35 pm)Esquilax Wrote:Quote:http://www.creationproof.com/id24.html
probably some of this
And again:
These guys Wrote:Our primary goal is that God be glorified, that souls be won for Christ, and that God’s Word be shown to be inerrant and pure, while exposing evolution as an atheistic misrepresentation of earth's and mankind's origin.
How about you post sources that aren't outright biased against the truth, where it contradicts with your favorite story book, Rev. I thought you wanted to be honest about this, and yet here you are still presenting the words of liars as if they were truth.
Just because a source has Christian beliefs doesn't mean that the source should be disregarded. I can do the same with atheistic sources.
The source should be dedicated to honest investigation, not dedicated to verifying what they already believe. Read it again. They're primary goal is to show that the Bible be shown inerrant, and that evolution be exposed as a misrepresentation of our true origin. That doesn't sound like honest inquiry to me.