I was referenceing people in this thread defining hell, not the bible's I know hell is in the bible.
All of the matthew excerpts come paraphased from noted parables, so I definately take those as more emotive orstory visualization. They're only reference eternal fire, not the south park version of hell
Actually in luke 16 I love the line "30And he said, 'No,(AL) father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent.' 31He said to him, 'If they do not hear(AM) Moses and the Prophets,(AN) neither will they be convinced if someone should rise from the dead.'" this chapter is also started off as a parable, hell again described as unquenchable fire.
All of Revelations was a revelation to John, and while very poetic it's a prophecy not an account, very visual and emotive.
Actually no burden of proof existed because I was asked and responded no unless a clear definition was given, not that it matters. I don't ascribe to a burning lake if that's what was being asked. I think that was a very powerfull primitive visualization on minds without a strong grasp of reason and science. However I do believe that not everyone gets into heaven. You guys can have whatevers left
All of the matthew excerpts come paraphased from noted parables, so I definately take those as more emotive orstory visualization. They're only reference eternal fire, not the south park version of hell
Actually in luke 16 I love the line "30And he said, 'No,(AL) father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent.' 31He said to him, 'If they do not hear(AM) Moses and the Prophets,(AN) neither will they be convinced if someone should rise from the dead.'" this chapter is also started off as a parable, hell again described as unquenchable fire.
All of Revelations was a revelation to John, and while very poetic it's a prophecy not an account, very visual and emotive.
Actually no burden of proof existed because I was asked and responded no unless a clear definition was given, not that it matters. I don't ascribe to a burning lake if that's what was being asked. I think that was a very powerfull primitive visualization on minds without a strong grasp of reason and science. However I do believe that not everyone gets into heaven. You guys can have whatevers left
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
always working on cleaning my windows- me regarding Johari
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