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Ontology of God--Theological Noncognitivist View
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RE: Ontology of God--Theological Noncognitivist View
(January 15, 2010 at 11:06 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Ignosticism suggests that we can't know what God isn't, which is clearly falsifiable.
You still didn't prove it anywhere...seriously.


(January 16, 2010 at 9:23 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: How can you find out what God is not before you first define what this "God" IS? It just doesn't make any sense to me.
That question is stuck in my mind too.

Frodo Wrote:Well if you were a rock you'd be mineral; chocolate you'd be vegetable etc. By process of elimination animal is all you could be as something existant in the physical universe. Yeah I could be a lot more vague... but for simplicity I started with the first question of the '20 Questions' game.
Apply that successively to what I can know doesn't apply to you, and you can see that I can come up with a pretty good idea of what you are.

This is how God is defined and it clearly is effective in formulating an idea of what God is.

God is not confined into the universe, that's why the whole "define it by what it isn't" doesn't work.

Such definition is meaningless since telling what God is not doesn't confine his nature/essence to a known area. For example, God could be "anything" as the possible definitions are infinite. Then let's say that I "find" that God is not X or Y (even though we can't do that without knowing what God is, but nevermind), where X can even be an entire known, definite and confined group such as "animal". But if we add these "informations" to the previous definition of God we get: the possible definitions of God are infinite, therefore God could be "anything" (even though we removed X and Y).

Starting with all the informations you gathered (not X, not Y) about god, we could still define an infinite number of Gods (or ideas of God) with different attributes.


(January 16, 2010 at 1:00 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: If we can know what he isn't, then we know he isn't the unknown right? Because nothing at all can be known about the unknown. So God can't be metaphorical.
If nothing at all can be known about the unknown, then you can't say that the unknown is not God...and you can't say it is God either...I guess.


(January 16, 2010 at 3:01 pm)Purple Rabbit Wrote:
(January 16, 2010 at 2:29 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Which seems consistent with Christian theology. Christianity's attributes of God are never complete.
That implies christianity knows something about god's attributes. But according to the above that is a lie.
I agree with PurpleRabbit. If Christianity knows attributes of God (and I assume it knows positive attributes) then it knows partially what God is which is in contradiction with "you can't know what God is".
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Ontology of God--Theological Noncognitivist View - by Knight - January 15, 2010 at 6:23 pm
RE: Ontology of God--Theological Noncognitivist View - by AtheistPhil - January 17, 2010 at 1:04 am

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