(August 19, 2014 at 3:15 pm)revivin Wrote: We can't have a conversation with atheists because they shut their minds down. The fact remains if there was this alleged infinite regress of cause and effects atheists cling to, you would have had an eternity to come into being before now, so you should have already happened, so nature needs a cause outside of itself, outside of time and space, being uncreated by the uncreated Creator.
Words . . . words . . . words.
And this alleged (judging by this thread, I know you don't know that word, so look it up) "uncreated Creator" can be demonstrated to be Yahweh -- how? Don't tell me how your holy book of ancient bullshit is the "proof". Seriously, don't do that. Explain how we get from an Aristotelian postulate to the Hebrew god without thereby "proving" the existence of other gods along the way.
On a side note, I really can't keep a straight face when a self-professed Trinitarian lectures others on conceptual coherence.
