(November 21, 2014 at 6:24 pm)His_Majesty Wrote: I observe animals "bringing forth after their kind"...that is what I observe...that is what I can experiment with if I put two dogs, male/female, in one room...have them mate...and however many months later, they will produce a dog...that is an example of BRINGING FORTH AFTER THEIR KIND.
Let me guess. You don't believe evolution is true because you've never seen what scientists claim happens over millions of years happen in all the dozens of years you've been alive.
Let me ask you this. When you mate these dogs and the pups are born, do any of them look EXACTLY like either of the parents? You ever notice that there are tiny little changes? Maybe some differences between the parents and the pups? Are you aware that there are new dog breeds popping up even now? Big dogs, little dogs, dogs in between, some with big snouts, some with small. Obviously changes can be made from one dog to the next, right? And we know for a fact that these changes can be compounded from one generation to the next, getting more pronounced or less. This is how we get different breeds of dogs. What do you think these dogs will look like 10 million years from now? How about 100 million? 500 million? If we can see such huge changes in how they look just in our lifetimes, what do you think is going to happen over massive amounts of time much more than we can observe? Never, in all that time, will the changes compound to such an extent that we won't recognize it as a dog?
One important thing to note that most ID proponents are not aware of, there was no "first dog". Evolution doesn't work that way. You don't have a chicken lay an egg and sit on it and, POOF! Out pops a dog! Evolution is the compounded changes you very much have seen in your lifetime over very massive amounts of time.
If you would like an example of how subtle these changes are, look at horses and donkeys. They are not the same species, but they are close enough that they can breed and produce a mule, which is almost always infertile. You can tell a horse from a donkey easily enough. They look a lot a like, but there are some major differences. But the offspring they produce cannot be mated to produce more. In rare cases there are fertile female mules, but they only produce offspring when mated with either horse or donkey, never when mated with mule. The changes have been so subtle over so much time that they still look a lot alike, but they are very much not the same thing. If they were their offspring could reproduce, just like the offspring of two purebred dogs can reproduce to make more of the same crossbreed of dogs.
So, yes, a dog will always produce a dog and if you watch any dog give birth it will always from here until infinity give birth to a dog. But, if you go forward in time 100 million years and get a descendant from that dog, it might not be a dog any more. It's a difficult concept to grasp, but the changes are so slight from one generation to the next that there is no point where something is born where you can say definitively "that is not a dog". If you see one born and say, "That is not a dog" then you'll look at the parent and say "That is not a dog either!"
Not that you care or are open to learning new things or ideas which differ in any way from those you already hold, but that's how it works. Compounded changes over massive amounts of time with no single point where a species goes from being one thing to being another thing. It is small changes from one generation to the next, so small you can barely perceive them when looking from one generation to the next to the next. It is only when you go from one generation to thousands of generations in the future and compare the two very far separated by time that there even is enough difference for the species to have changed.
