RE: If
February 17, 2015 at 3:46 am
(This post was last modified: February 17, 2015 at 4:01 am by Little Rik.)
(February 16, 2015 at 10:58 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote:(February 16, 2015 at 10:18 am)Riketto Wrote: If you consider that the rock consciousness is in a dormant stage that it is not stupid at all.
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Yeah... No - it's still pretty stupid.
Using a condescending tone and "new age" platitudes, when making un-testable claims does not make those claims any more substantiated. You can't possibly know what's the stage of consciousness of an inanimate object, since it's impossible to communicate with it. For all you know - and for all the difference that it makes - the rock is just a rock.
You can personify it all you want, call it "sleeping", "autistic", or "shy", but at the end of the day - it's all in your head unless you can find a damn good way to prove it to be otherwise. Extraordinary claims and all that jazz...
And no - calling people "idiot" does not constitute a proof.
.........making un-testable claims.............
Darwin did observe how animals behave and change and from there he draw his conclusion.
Is this un-testable claim?
Anybody can observe the mineral world and draw conclusion.
Anybody can draw conclusion from the fact that some mineral look like dead while other like uranium can emit energy.
But what's the point talking with a brick wall.
(February 16, 2015 at 1:10 pm)rasetsu Wrote:(February 16, 2015 at 9:55 am)Riketto Wrote: Just read my previous post and tell me whether the universal body can exist without a mind and a consciousness.According to you the one cannot function without the other. You didn't address whether the body can exist without a mind or consciousness ("A body ... [is composed] also of mind and consciousness").
Much of what you said was phrased in rhetorical questions, so even that is uncertain.
So, instead of answering my question you come up with more questions.
Can't you make it more simple and say whether the universe can exist without a controlling mind and consciousness or not?
(February 16, 2015 at 9:55 am)Riketto Wrote: He left his body years ago but i believe that the consciousness is still alive and well so to me Sarkar does have total peace of mind although Sarkar body doesn't exist anymore.
Quote:And exactly how do you know that he did/does have total peace of mind?
Because alive physically or alive consciousness he still guide me towards the right path day after day.
I experience no differences whatsoever now or in the past when he was inside a body.
(February 16, 2015 at 1:33 pm)Surgenator Wrote:(February 16, 2015 at 9:29 am)Riketto Wrote: And you claim that you got evidence?
Are you serious surgen?
You can't even understand how the universal system works so what evidence can you ever offer?
Can a body function without the head?
Not even a zombie could go around without a head in place.
The reason why i keep on saying that well before you try to know the external reality you should try to know yourself.
Just look at yourself before you look externally.
The universe function the same way as your body.
A body is not composed only of matter, water, energy, air a space to contain the whole but also of mind and consciousness.
The universe is also composed of matter, water, light, air and space but could really function without a mind and a consciousness?
If our body can not function without a mind and consciousness why the universe could?
Both entity are composed of the same elements so why one can not function without a mind and consciousness and the other doesn't need mind and consciousness.
You never thought about it surgen, didn't you mate?
It only took one post to go back to your delusions. This is why the dirty germophobe is the better analogy of you.
You like rasu can not answer my question.
I guess it is hard to digest this one.