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Kalam argument under attack
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RE: Kalam argument under attack
(February 9, 2015 at 2:22 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(February 9, 2015 at 2:16 pm)Surgenator Wrote: Oversimplified version: The authors applied a quantum mechanics corrections to general relativity. This ellimanted the Big Bang as a infinitely small point with all the mass and energy in it. It produced a finite size that is infinity old i.e. the universe had no beginning.

How does this model explain the CMB and redshifts of distant objects?

As far as I understand it, the model differs from our current understanding on the quantum level. So at the larger scales, there is no noticible difference between the two. CMB and the expansion of the universe would still occur.

Summary from the original paper.

Quote:In summary, we have shown here that as for the QRE,
the second order Friedmann equation derived from the
QRE also contains two quantum correction terms. These
terms are generic and unavoidable and follow naturally
in a quantum mechanical description of our universe. Of
these, the first can be interpreted as cosmological con-
stant or dark energy
of the correct (observed) magnitude
and a small mass of the graviton (or axion). The second
quantum correction term pushes back the time singu-
larity indefinitely, and predicts an everlasting universe.

While inhomogeneous or anisotropic perturbations are
not expected to significantly affect these results, it would
be useful to redo the current study with such small per-
turbations to rigorously confirm that this is indeed the
case. Also, as noted in the introduction, we assume it to
follow general relativity, whereas the Einstein equations
may themselves undergo quantum corrections, especially
at early epochs, further affecting predictions. Given the
robust set of starting assumptions, we expect our main
results to continue to hold even if and when a fully satis-
factory theory of quantum gravity is formulated. For the
cosmological constant problem at late times on the other
hand, quantum gravity effects are practically absent and
can be safely ignored. We hope to report on these and
related issues elsewhere
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1404.3093v3.pdf

I bolded for emphasis. This theory still predicts the correct amount of dark energy, but no beginning of the universe.
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Kalam argument under attack - by Surgenator - February 9, 2015 at 2:08 pm
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by FatAndFaithless - February 9, 2015 at 2:10 pm
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by Esquilax - February 9, 2015 at 2:12 pm
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by downbeatplumb - February 9, 2015 at 2:13 pm
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by downbeatplumb - February 9, 2015 at 2:12 pm
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by robvalue - February 9, 2015 at 2:12 pm
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by Faith No More - February 9, 2015 at 2:13 pm
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by TheRealJoeFish - February 9, 2015 at 2:14 pm
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by Surgenator - February 9, 2015 at 2:18 pm
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by Surgenator - February 9, 2015 at 2:16 pm
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by Norman Humann - February 9, 2015 at 2:18 pm
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by Jackalope - February 9, 2015 at 2:22 pm
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by Surgenator - February 9, 2015 at 2:26 pm
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by JesusHChrist - February 9, 2015 at 2:22 pm
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by Thumpalumpacus - February 9, 2015 at 4:17 pm
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by Surgenator - February 9, 2015 at 4:30 pm
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by robvalue - February 9, 2015 at 2:23 pm
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by Faith No More - February 9, 2015 at 2:46 pm
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by Surgenator - February 9, 2015 at 3:02 pm
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by Faith No More - February 9, 2015 at 3:13 pm
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by Jackalope - February 9, 2015 at 3:04 pm
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by robvalue - February 9, 2015 at 3:15 pm
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by JesusHChrist - February 9, 2015 at 3:22 pm
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by Alex K - February 9, 2015 at 3:22 pm
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by Surgenator - February 9, 2015 at 4:13 pm
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by Exian - February 9, 2015 at 4:42 pm
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by robvalue - February 9, 2015 at 5:06 pm
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by Alex K - February 9, 2015 at 5:34 pm
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by Mudhammam - February 9, 2015 at 6:16 pm
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by Exian - February 9, 2015 at 6:30 pm
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by robvalue - February 10, 2015 at 4:51 am
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by Alex K - February 10, 2015 at 5:02 am
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 10, 2015 at 4:56 am
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by Alex K - February 10, 2015 at 5:01 am
RE: Kalam argument under attack - by robvalue - February 10, 2015 at 5:02 am

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