(May 8, 2015 at 8:03 am)reasonablerob Wrote: I was an Atheist for many years until I began my Philosophy degree.There's your first problem. Most, not all, but most, of philosophy is a bunch of brain masturbating bullshit.
(May 8, 2015 at 8:03 am)reasonablerob Wrote: The argument that swayed me is very simple:IN. The important word there is IN our universe. We can not assume that any thing that occurs OUTSIDE our universe, if such a thing even exists which we don't really know for a fact, follows the same rules. If you say that it follows the same rules, demonstrate it.
Premise 1) Everything in the Universe is either impermanent, or depends upon something else for its existence. (things are born and they die, the universe tends towards entropy, nothing within the Universe lasts forever)
(May 8, 2015 at 8:03 am)reasonablerob Wrote: Premise 2) An infinite regress of finite, impermanent causes seems logically impossible.The fact that time travels at different speeds depending on the observers' relative speed, proximity to gravitational sources, etc... also seems logically impossible. But it happens. The universe could give a shit about what we think is logically impossible. The fact that infinite regress 'seems' logically impossible has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not it actually happens.
I'd go on, but this is getting tedious. We've seen, and debunked this, many times over.