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JESUS <3
RE: JESUS <3
(July 16, 2015 at 3:28 am)Minimalist Wrote:
(July 15, 2015 at 8:16 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: I'm not convinced that he was an actual person.

Also, the propagation of and population of cults is not anything particularly difficult or surprising.

The point is that a real person is not necessary for a cult to arise.   The jesus freaks would be the first to scream bloody murder if someone suggested there was a historical Apollo or Adonis and they would be right.  Those gods are just as much bullshit as Jesus.   But xtians are never far from special pleading.   Their god boy is always different.

I don't actually think it is special pleading to believe that Jesus was more likely to be a real person more than Apollo or Adonis for the reasons I previously mentioned.
I actually said in my last post Jesus wasn't flying through the air killing dragons in the bible, he was doing easily faked magic tricks and using common cult leader rhetoric that is more usual in the behaviour of real cult leaders than it is mythological heroes.

Apollo is a perfect example, he killed a dragon when he was four, he made love to nymphs.  He wasn't going around doing magic tricks trying to get people to join him, he was acquiring bow and arrows from other gods, infecting them with the plague and using them in war.

The way I see it is that the bible is Jesus's greatest promotional material, and even in that he doesn't strike me as an impressive supernatural figure, he just seems like a Charles Manson, Jim Jones type of figure, religious gurus in India are basically doing now what Jesus probably did 2000 years ago, and anything that does sound impressive you can just put it down to 2000 years worth of exaggeration building up.


Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.

Impersonation is treason.





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JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - July 15, 2015 at 6:59 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Jackalope - July 15, 2015 at 7:02 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Napoléon - July 15, 2015 at 7:04 pm
JESUS - by KUSA - July 15, 2015 at 7:07 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Anomalocaris - October 7, 2015 at 9:27 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Redbeard The Pink - July 15, 2015 at 7:16 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Minimalist - July 15, 2015 at 7:21 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by BrokenQuill92 - July 15, 2015 at 7:27 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Angrboda - July 15, 2015 at 7:28 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Napoléon - July 15, 2015 at 7:48 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Exian - July 15, 2015 at 7:29 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - July 15, 2015 at 7:31 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Mister Agenda - October 7, 2015 at 10:09 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Grandizer - October 7, 2015 at 10:48 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Exian - July 15, 2015 at 7:32 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - July 15, 2015 at 7:39 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Wyrd of Gawd - July 15, 2015 at 9:55 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Anomalocaris - July 15, 2015 at 10:56 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - July 15, 2015 at 11:10 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Anomalocaris - July 15, 2015 at 11:15 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - July 15, 2015 at 11:17 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by rexbeccarox - July 15, 2015 at 11:23 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - July 15, 2015 at 11:29 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by rexbeccarox - July 15, 2015 at 11:30 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - July 15, 2015 at 11:33 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Minimalist - July 15, 2015 at 7:40 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Exian - July 15, 2015 at 7:46 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by drfuzzy - July 15, 2015 at 7:47 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by ignoramus - July 15, 2015 at 7:52 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - July 15, 2015 at 7:56 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Minimalist - July 15, 2015 at 8:31 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - July 15, 2015 at 8:34 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Minimalist - July 15, 2015 at 8:50 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Wyrd of Gawd - July 15, 2015 at 10:04 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Anomalocaris - July 15, 2015 at 10:16 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Homeless Nutter - July 15, 2015 at 7:57 pm
JESUS - by KUSA - July 15, 2015 at 7:57 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Minimalist - July 15, 2015 at 8:00 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by AFTT47 - July 15, 2015 at 8:07 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by SteelCurtain - July 15, 2015 at 8:16 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Minimalist - July 16, 2015 at 3:28 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by paulpablo - July 16, 2015 at 8:46 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Jenny A - July 15, 2015 at 8:17 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - July 15, 2015 at 8:18 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Jenny A - July 15, 2015 at 8:29 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Randy Carson - July 16, 2015 at 7:57 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by abaris - July 16, 2015 at 8:02 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Randy Carson - July 16, 2015 at 8:19 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Pyrrho - July 16, 2015 at 8:49 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Jenny A - July 16, 2015 at 8:04 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Randy Carson - July 16, 2015 at 8:23 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Jenny A - July 16, 2015 at 8:45 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Spooky - July 15, 2015 at 8:20 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - July 15, 2015 at 8:26 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Jenny A - July 15, 2015 at 8:34 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - July 15, 2015 at 8:38 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Jenny A - July 15, 2015 at 8:50 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - July 15, 2015 at 10:11 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Simon Moon - July 15, 2015 at 9:02 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Simon Moon - July 15, 2015 at 8:53 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - July 15, 2015 at 10:12 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Spooky - July 15, 2015 at 9:59 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Pyrrho - July 15, 2015 at 10:50 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - July 15, 2015 at 11:07 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Anomalocaris - July 15, 2015 at 10:59 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Wyrd of Gawd - July 16, 2015 at 12:46 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Anomalocaris - July 16, 2015 at 4:47 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Wyrd of Gawd - July 16, 2015 at 12:17 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - July 16, 2015 at 1:06 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Thumpalumpacus - July 16, 2015 at 12:32 pm
JESUS - by marcosmasliaev - July 15, 2015 at 8:31 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Simon Moon - July 15, 2015 at 8:41 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by paulpablo - July 15, 2015 at 9:03 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by ignoramus - July 15, 2015 at 9:04 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Minimalist - July 15, 2015 at 9:50 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - July 15, 2015 at 10:27 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by The Valkyrie - July 15, 2015 at 9:18 pm
JESUS - by KUSA - July 15, 2015 at 9:26 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by KevinM1 - July 15, 2015 at 9:28 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by KevinM1 - July 15, 2015 at 9:27 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Minimalist - July 15, 2015 at 9:44 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Wyrd of Gawd - July 15, 2015 at 9:48 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - July 15, 2015 at 10:32 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Wyrd of Gawd - July 16, 2015 at 12:38 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Foxaèr - July 15, 2015 at 9:50 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Anomalocaris - July 15, 2015 at 9:55 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by rexbeccarox - July 15, 2015 at 10:14 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Foxaèr - July 15, 2015 at 10:16 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - July 15, 2015 at 10:37 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by rexbeccarox - July 15, 2015 at 10:46 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - July 15, 2015 at 11:06 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by ignoramus - July 15, 2015 at 10:26 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Ravenshire - July 15, 2015 at 10:32 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Pyrrho - July 15, 2015 at 10:39 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Minimalist - July 15, 2015 at 10:42 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by rexbeccarox - July 15, 2015 at 11:38 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by ignoramus - July 15, 2015 at 11:39 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - July 15, 2015 at 11:42 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Wyrd of Gawd - July 16, 2015 at 12:56 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by ignoramus - July 15, 2015 at 11:55 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - July 16, 2015 at 12:06 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Minimalist - July 16, 2015 at 1:07 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Anomalocaris - July 16, 2015 at 12:16 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by robvalue - July 16, 2015 at 2:18 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Kaninchen - July 16, 2015 at 2:40 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by ignoramus - July 16, 2015 at 2:46 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by robvalue - July 16, 2015 at 2:48 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Longhorn - July 16, 2015 at 3:25 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by ignoramus - July 16, 2015 at 4:45 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Longhorn - July 16, 2015 at 4:49 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by ignoramus - July 16, 2015 at 4:56 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by pocaracas - July 16, 2015 at 6:46 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - July 16, 2015 at 9:54 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by pocaracas - July 16, 2015 at 10:09 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Longhorn - July 16, 2015 at 6:54 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Nope - July 16, 2015 at 8:36 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Mudhammam - July 16, 2015 at 8:52 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Minimalist - July 16, 2015 at 10:40 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - July 16, 2015 at 11:12 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Napoléon - July 16, 2015 at 11:14 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Minimalist - July 16, 2015 at 11:26 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - July 16, 2015 at 6:29 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Jenny A - July 16, 2015 at 7:44 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Jenny A - July 16, 2015 at 7:40 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - July 16, 2015 at 7:47 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Napoléon - July 16, 2015 at 8:05 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Randy Carson - July 16, 2015 at 8:27 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Foxaèr - July 16, 2015 at 8:32 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Randy Carson - July 16, 2015 at 9:08 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Brakeman - July 16, 2015 at 9:16 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Randy Carson - July 16, 2015 at 10:17 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by rexbeccarox - July 17, 2015 at 12:44 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Cephus - July 17, 2015 at 3:23 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Napoléon - July 17, 2015 at 9:42 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - July 16, 2015 at 8:35 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Whateverist - July 16, 2015 at 9:11 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - July 16, 2015 at 9:45 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by robvalue - July 16, 2015 at 11:14 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by abaris - July 16, 2015 at 12:50 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Tonus - July 16, 2015 at 1:01 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Cephus - July 16, 2015 at 2:58 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Lemonvariable72 - July 16, 2015 at 4:27 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Longhorn - July 16, 2015 at 4:32 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Longhorn - July 16, 2015 at 4:33 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by pocaracas - July 16, 2015 at 6:50 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by ignoramus - July 16, 2015 at 7:00 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - July 16, 2015 at 7:02 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Iroscato - July 16, 2015 at 7:38 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by ignoramus - July 16, 2015 at 8:26 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by rado84 - July 16, 2015 at 8:28 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Whateverist - July 16, 2015 at 8:47 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Minimalist - July 16, 2015 at 8:49 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Randy Carson - July 16, 2015 at 9:11 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Minimalist - July 16, 2015 at 10:19 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - July 16, 2015 at 10:23 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Little lunch - July 17, 2015 at 4:09 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Minimalist - October 5, 2015 at 9:01 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - October 5, 2015 at 10:04 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Minimalist - October 5, 2015 at 10:12 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - October 5, 2015 at 10:14 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by MTL - October 5, 2015 at 10:15 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - October 5, 2015 at 10:19 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by MTL - October 5, 2015 at 10:27 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - October 5, 2015 at 11:11 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Exian - October 5, 2015 at 11:03 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Iroscato - October 5, 2015 at 10:06 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Minimalist - October 5, 2015 at 10:13 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Iroscato - October 5, 2015 at 10:43 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Randy Carson - July 16, 2015 at 11:07 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by abaris - July 17, 2015 at 4:47 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Randy Carson - July 16, 2015 at 10:24 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by The Grand Nudger - July 16, 2015 at 10:40 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by The Grand Nudger - July 16, 2015 at 11:09 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Randy Carson - July 16, 2015 at 11:21 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by abaris - July 17, 2015 at 10:38 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Anomalocaris - July 17, 2015 at 10:44 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by The Grand Nudger - July 17, 2015 at 12:06 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Kaninchen - July 17, 2015 at 1:56 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by robvalue - July 17, 2015 at 9:48 am
JESUS - by KUSA - July 17, 2015 at 3:44 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by ignoramus - July 17, 2015 at 7:15 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by rado84 - July 17, 2015 at 7:30 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by tonechaser77 - July 17, 2015 at 4:40 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by The Grand Nudger - July 17, 2015 at 7:34 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by rado84 - July 17, 2015 at 7:37 pm
JESUS - by KUSA - July 17, 2015 at 7:40 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by dyresand - October 5, 2015 at 11:32 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by TruthWorthy - October 6, 2015 at 1:42 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Losty - October 6, 2015 at 2:00 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by ignoramus - October 6, 2015 at 4:25 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Grandizer - October 6, 2015 at 7:05 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Nay_Sayer - October 6, 2015 at 7:37 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Sinbad - October 6, 2015 at 8:05 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by pocaracas - October 6, 2015 at 8:38 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Grandizer - October 6, 2015 at 9:12 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by dyresand - October 6, 2015 at 9:15 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Grandizer - October 6, 2015 at 10:24 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by pocaracas - October 6, 2015 at 10:37 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Wyrd of Gawd - October 6, 2015 at 11:04 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Wyrd of Gawd - October 6, 2015 at 11:08 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Sinbad - October 13, 2015 at 7:35 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Neo-Scholastic - October 6, 2015 at 9:31 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Crossless1 - October 6, 2015 at 9:37 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by dyresand - October 6, 2015 at 9:19 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Homeless Nutter - October 6, 2015 at 9:33 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by houseofcantor - October 7, 2015 at 5:16 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by pocaracas - October 6, 2015 at 10:05 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Edwardo Piet - October 6, 2015 at 9:37 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Homeless Nutter - October 6, 2015 at 9:56 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Minimalist - October 6, 2015 at 9:44 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Edwardo Piet - October 6, 2015 at 10:00 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Minimalist - October 6, 2015 at 10:18 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Homeless Nutter - October 6, 2015 at 10:30 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by dyresand - October 6, 2015 at 10:46 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Minimalist - October 6, 2015 at 10:56 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by robvalue - October 7, 2015 at 4:30 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by pocaracas - October 7, 2015 at 4:56 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by robvalue - October 7, 2015 at 6:08 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Grandizer - October 7, 2015 at 8:47 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by pocaracas - October 7, 2015 at 9:07 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by robvalue - October 7, 2015 at 10:15 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Longhorn - October 7, 2015 at 10:30 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Cephus - October 7, 2015 at 6:53 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Edwardo Piet - October 7, 2015 at 9:29 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by robvalue - October 7, 2015 at 10:32 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by pocaracas - October 7, 2015 at 11:52 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by robvalue - October 7, 2015 at 10:50 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Crossless1 - October 7, 2015 at 11:45 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by robvalue - October 7, 2015 at 10:51 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by TheRocketSurgeon - October 7, 2015 at 11:29 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by robvalue - October 7, 2015 at 12:29 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by pocaracas - October 7, 2015 at 12:31 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Edwardo Piet - October 7, 2015 at 12:36 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by pocaracas - October 7, 2015 at 12:43 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by TheRocketSurgeon - October 7, 2015 at 12:48 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by pocaracas - October 7, 2015 at 12:56 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Edwardo Piet - October 7, 2015 at 12:55 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Edwardo Piet - October 7, 2015 at 12:57 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by pocaracas - October 7, 2015 at 12:59 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Longhorn - October 7, 2015 at 1:07 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by pocaracas - October 7, 2015 at 1:12 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by Edwardo Piet - October 7, 2015 at 6:58 pm
RE: JESUS <3 - by TruthWorthy - October 8, 2015 at 6:51 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Aoi Magi - October 8, 2015 at 7:48 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by robvalue - October 8, 2015 at 7:55 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Edwardo Piet - October 8, 2015 at 8:39 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Catholic_Lady - October 8, 2015 at 10:16 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Iroscato - October 13, 2015 at 7:37 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Bob Kelso - October 9, 2015 at 3:48 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by robvalue - October 9, 2015 at 6:02 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by houseofcantor - October 9, 2015 at 9:27 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Mr Greene - October 9, 2015 at 8:23 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by MentalGiant - October 9, 2015 at 9:25 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Grandizer - October 9, 2015 at 10:40 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by robvalue - October 9, 2015 at 10:24 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Edwardo Piet - October 9, 2015 at 10:44 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by robvalue - October 9, 2015 at 10:45 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Edwardo Piet - October 9, 2015 at 10:47 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by TruthWorthy - October 11, 2015 at 10:25 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Hmmm? - October 13, 2015 at 7:54 am
RE: JESUS <3 - by Iroscato - October 13, 2015 at 7:57 am

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