(July 16, 2015 at 2:13 pm)Rhythm Wrote: That's fine, we can say that human rights don't exist -today-...but what does that have to do with god, what does that have to do with the consistency of human rights as an idea, and what does that have to do with their possibility?
Nothing,.. nada...and bumpkiss. It -was- and remains a non-sequitur.
- The god discussion was brought incidentally by ChadWooters and I agreed, but it's very relevant to the discussion. I merely pointed out that with God you can comfortably argue for any kind of HR depending on the god version you believe in.
- The inconsistency of HR is a good reason to think why the claim about universality and inalienability is objectionable
- Obviously rights matter as long as they're applicable in a certain factual real life scenario - Verifying that HR are not being applied as claimed by people who wrote the declaration points out towards their non-existence, at least like they are defined in the declaration.
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you
