(July 16, 2015 at 11:38 pm)ignoramus Wrote: What Cath is saying is that without the church telling her stuff, she'd have no idea about:
Morality
Human rights
What is good
Marriage
Public toilet strategies
C'mon Cath.
You're alot smarter than that.
You'd be exactly the same person with or without your religion.
We all know that, the only person who doesn't is you.
That is NOT what I am saying.
Many people here (including JennyA who is the person I was addressing) are saying that there is no such thing as inherent human rights.
ALL I said was that, while I disagree, I too would believe there was no such thing as inherent human rights if I did not believe in God to assign those human rights.
I honestly don't understand why this is getting blown up in my face. I'm basically saying I understand where JennyA is coming from, and would think the same thing if I too did not believe in God.
Trying not to get frustrated here, but this is getting ridiculous.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh