What Human Rights?

[Dystopia]

Pyrrho, as a law student I think there's an obvious distinction between limiting or restricting one's right and completely taking it away - Going to prison does not mean that you lose your right to liberty - BTW, liberty itself is vast so I assume people mean "right to circulate freely" or to "move freely" - Prison just means your right to liberty is restricted because it is necessary to protect other members of society - Losing liberty would be if the State declare that you don't have it anymore and are subject to authorization to do anything you want - There's a difference between restriction and complete death of rights. Prison doesn't mean you lose your right to liberty because there's many things you can do in prison - I've been into a minimum security prison on a uni trip and it was much better than I expected - Prisoners are allowed to have personal belongings inside cells (like computers, books,etc.), they can take a degree and work, etc - And even in maximum security prisons, you don't entirely lose your right to liberty.

Inalienability just means you can't lose or give the right away - It doesn't mean that violating that right makes it non-existent - That's why we call it a "violation" and it's not acceptable as normal behavior - It doesn't literally mean that in reality you can't see your rights being violated, but that it is an abstractly desirable goal to maintain those rights as fundamental mechanisms for any human to react against oppressive forces.

I don't agree with the concept of inalienability as proposed by universal HR, but I agree that at any given time any constitution can proclaim any right as inalienable if the society in question values the object at hand - And that's acceptable.