A person who needs help.....

[Orchids]

I've briefly mingled with atheism few years back but ended up going  back to xitianity.  I realize it was a mistake as back then I did really good, read few books and was well on my way to mental freedom. I can't afford therapy. Yes, that's how tormented I currently am. I thought I'd ask one of the atheists forum for encouragement and guidance.

I have no problem embracing atheism, except that I saw somebody I think is Christ and more  than once few years back. I don't have any visions or hallucinations. He is the only one I have ever seen while awake. I never heard or seen things that were not there before this creep came along.

I just wish to move on with my life. If there is a god, he can go [blank] himself. I am just exhausted of all this garbage.

Please help me in any way you can.

Sincerely,

Hello Orchids, welcome to the forums!  I wanted to first say I'm sorry for the turmoil you are going through.  Second, seeing as so few (if any) here have experienced anything similar to what you are, it is difficult for us to give helpful advice as this type of thing is very foreign to a lot of us.  I noticed in one of your posts you mentioned you were Muslim at one time.  Maybe it would be helpful to know that this type of story is not that uncommon to Muslim and Hindu nations.  There are scores of stories similar to yours who come from similar backgrounds.  I don't have any resources for you to contact others who have experienced similar things, but check out some of these:

http://www.wnd.com/2014/11/rising-number...out-jesus/
http://www.divinerevelations.info/muslim/
http://www.charismamag.com/spirit/evange...-see-jesus

IkingpinI,

Thank you so much for the welcome and your sympathy. There is no doubt in my mind that others have other experiences. But I do not need mine to be validated by theirs. I know Christ is Real, I just want get off his train. Nothing more.

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Orchid: no problem The way I read your post it sounded like you were under stress, apologies if I misinterpreted it.

Yes, I never claim to know for certain anything that has happened to anyone. All I can do is give a rational judgement of what is most likely to be the case. I'm sorry if I offended you. The human brain is extremely fallible, and we should be wary of anything that isn't verifiable and doesn't mesh with reality.

Now I am the one who is sorry . Those visions were probably the most beautiful experiences I have ever had. That's how stress free they were. But honeymoon does not last for ever. With the Christian walk comes persecution. And as far as that's concerned, I got to a point where I am done and through. And no, you didn't offend me. I just asked the question why you thought I was stressed when I had those experiences. Maybe because I didn't specifically clarify the timeframe of its presence during the given periods. The vision of the sky, a Christian elder told me, was a consolation.  And it did feel like that. In fact it felt like I was screaming toddler (internally), Daddy came by, "rocked my cradle" and  pampered me little, I started to coo and he left as the vision lasted for only few seconds.  

have to go back and re-listen to your vid and to that of that Ph, D as in them there is material I need to absorb. TXS again.

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Orchids:

You came here looking for help (the title of your thread). We listened to you, even asked questions, and then gave what each of us thought was a helpful response.

In my opinion, what you then gave us in return was an attack. Not a "thanks but I don't agree", but an attack. So obviously you didn't want our honest thoughts. I'm not sure what you expected or wanted. How about "There, there, everything is perfectly OK". That work without an attack response?

I'll continue to monitor this thread but I'm afraid you can't expect much continued support from me.

Still hoping you find a solution and happiness.

No, I didn't attack anyone. I was belittled by this fake dr. She distorted what I said to fit what's supposed to make sense in her little mind. And answered her accordingly, nothing more.

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Welcome Orchids. I’m sorry to hear about your mental struggles. I wouldn’t buy into those stories lkingpinl is feeding you. I can hand you hundreds of videos right now on Youtube, from a Near Death Experience Convention, none mentioning any sort of religious experience. They practically all said that they were embraced by a loving spiritual being that they knew was their creator (or they saw their family). No jesus, muhammad, etc. Then, you have the people on T.V. (in the U.S.) that love to bring up hell and jesus, in order to appeal to the predominant christian nation. That’s the problem with eyewitness testimony (and phony reality T.V. shows), you’re going to get a ton of conflicting stories.

lkinpinl is a good guy, and means well, but argues with the presupposition that christianity is true too often. Is the crying mary statue true or is the hindu milk statue miracle true? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_milk_miracle There’s probably a reasonable explanation for both of them if you look hard enough, and the same goes with your visions. People that are predisposed to a religion are more likely to see things that have to do with what they believe. I had dreams of jesus, because I prayed to jesus all the time, he was in my mind. I also, had powerful, vivid dreams of certain hindu gods interacting with me. At the time I ignored them, and focused on the ones that I thought were real. I would listen to others on here, but you may be having hallucinations. I’ve had them before, but upon just awakening from a sleep. I’ve seen two dark man shaped black masses before in my room, but since it wasn’t accompanied with the Hollywood story of objects flying around the room, I had to come to the reasonable conclusion that I had hallucinated that.

Best wishes on trying to explain your visions. I would read up on them on a reputable, unbiased website.

P.S. - Maybe you should be more kind to people that are actually trying to offer you advice. If you want to believe that what you experienced was jesus, then, by all means go for it. After reading the last few posts, it seems like you'd rather attack them for offering you advice, but I'll leave mine anyway, since I took the time to do so. Have a nice day.

Thank you for your sympathy and your welcome, I really appreciate it. I do not need my visions to be explained as I already know it was Christ.  This is not what I asked in the OP. I am the one who is FULLY aware of all angles and related specifics of my experiences. So I have the right to make that assessment. Fuzzy did not help, she belittled me and accused me of being "haunted". As if that was not screwed up enough, she had to idiotically suggest I go see an  exorcist?!? and then turn around and claim she doesn't believe in them?!?!Just what kind of soup  or jambalaya is this!?

 I have news for both of you: At the peak of my struggles,  about 2 years ago, I did go to confession one time, I told the priest a fraction of what I shared here as they don't have the time to sit in the confessional and hear about all the details. And guess what he said?!?!?!He mentioned one of the catholic saints, I think it was Therese of Avila and told me my Christian walk is NORMAL and I, in fact, sounded much like her and what she has experienced!!!!!!! So there goes her "exorcism".
PATRONIZING and belittling is not help. And addressing that for what it is, is not "attacking".
lkingpinl is very nice caring guy. He is not the Minus here but rather the Plus. Thank you again.

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I am so sorry I didn't not have the time to answer all replies. Please forgive me. I will just as soon as I can. Much love to all.
Most sincerely,