(January 17, 2016 at 4:20 pm)Beccs Wrote:(January 17, 2016 at 4:05 pm)bennyboy Wrote: What the heck happened to this thread while I was sleeping?
I think reality is this: on an individual level, you wouldn't really expect ANY man to lose control of himself in response to certain clothing or behaviors. However, on a statistical level, we know for sure that certain clothing and behaviors will raise a woman's risk of being raped.
If it makes anyone feel better to blame the rapists, that's fine. They are out of control monsters. But we know they exist, and as sad as that is, that's a reality of the human species. All the justified blame in the world won't serve as a very effective barrier against a drunk monster's penis. But staying home, dressing conservatively, and meeting guys only at your local church probably will reduce risk a lot.
The parents of various sex abuse victims probably thought the same thing, too...
I don't know the numbers well, but keep in mind we are talking about RISK, i.e. statistical facts rather than absolute facts. I know that many sex abuse victims, especially children, are abused by family or family friends.
I also know that the majority of rapes in young adulthood are done by trusted people (especially boyfriends or dates) who won't take no for an answer.
Notice that I mention not only clothing, but life style choices. If you think other lifestyle choices are a greater factor, that's fine. However, it's clear that some women are going to be more statistically likely to be raped than others, and I believe that clothing may be part of this.
Redbeard The Pink has said some interesting things about clothing and statistics, but not offered any support. I suggest we all stop talking, and look for some actual numbers with regard to clothing.