(April 24, 2016 at 7:31 pm)confusedandscared Wrote: Little quick introduction:
-A devout muslim since 14 years old
-Always believed in a higher power and if you are good and graceful you will get rewarded either heaven or hell
Lately I been losing my faith and one of the biggest triggers is a question nobody seems to have a answer I am satisfied with.
I just need this last push and I feel like I will abandon my religion because I can not find a answer for this.
If god is all knowing and he created us, That means that before he created us he already knew what we were gonna do.
That also means that if god is all knowing and he created us that some of us that will go to hell or heaven was already created for it before hand.
But they tell me that we have free will but somehow it doesn't make sense. If we had thousands, Millions or even billions of option or destinies for each step we do and choose.
Wouldn't god know which one we would ultimately chose. please someone explain this to me I am getting more and more confused
It turns out that a protestant Christian, John Calvin, thought your thoughts and came up with his own sect...Calvinism
In that model, free will isn't really free. We're condemned by a sinful nature to only doing those things God knows we'll do.
Of course, it would be God who set up the system in which Adam sinned and shafted the rest of us, but let's not quibble.
I find a better model to be:
The concept of God has evolved as a means of social control in the hands of clerics who use it to convince (indoctrinate) many of the rest of us to support them without their having to do any real useful work. It's a sweet gig and they're willing to see any amount of unnecessary suffering in order to keep it up.
In this model, there doesn't have to be anything that actually exists to back up the concept of God, just clerics who benefit from the concept.
So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat?