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The unmoved mover
RE: The unmoved mover
(September 24, 2016 at 7:02 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:
(September 24, 2016 at 6:15 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: It is a part of the warp and woof of the history of god-thought to infer intentions behind the acts of the god figure.  It is likely this evolved "theory of mind" that is behind it.  Regardless, it seems inevitable that powerful forces are framed with intent.  It's hardly a parent figure or projection of the super-ego.  It is a human attribution of mind to the cosmic.  I would say that is a largely invariant trend historically.  We tend to conceive of gods as necessarily having intention.  It is not a projection; such framing forms the basis of our social world.  Why is it any lessening of the Divine to impute it with intentionality?  I think you're just projecting what you already believe back onto the universe.  If anything, that is a less authentic projection than the belief in the intentionality of the Divine, which is built from the most basic timber of our world, the "theory of mind."

The theory I'm working from is more fundamental than that of the mind. It is that of living being, of the objective body required for a mind to locate within and ride upon and the mind's most fundamental function as awareness of self existence. No intent required.

It's not even a "hypothesis" let alone a "theory"; in fact, the physics community is going to write you off as being a crackpot/crank.

Come up with some mathematical model that makes testable predictions, ones that can be either verified or falsified, write it up in a scientific paper, and then submit it to some journal or post it on Cornell University's ePrint server.  Send us the link after that.  Until then, none of us will care.
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The unmoved mover - by fdesilva - September 23, 2016 at 1:51 am
RE: The unmoved mover - by Esquilax - September 23, 2016 at 2:12 am
RE: The unmoved mover - by Whateverist - September 23, 2016 at 3:55 pm
RE: The unmoved mover - by BrokenQuill92 - September 23, 2016 at 2:19 am
RE: The unmoved mover - by ApeNotKillApe - September 23, 2016 at 2:47 am
RE: The unmoved mover - by Edwardo Piet - September 24, 2016 at 3:41 am
RE: The unmoved mover - by Arkilogue - September 24, 2016 at 3:42 am
RE: The unmoved mover - by Edwardo Piet - September 24, 2016 at 3:51 am
RE: The unmoved mover - by Arkilogue - September 24, 2016 at 3:52 am
RE: The unmoved mover - by ApeNotKillApe - September 24, 2016 at 3:49 am
RE: The unmoved mover - by Edwardo Piet - September 24, 2016 at 4:04 am
RE: The unmoved mover - by The Grand Nudger - September 23, 2016 at 2:57 am
RE: The unmoved mover - by fdesilva - September 23, 2016 at 3:41 pm
RE: The unmoved mover - by LastPoet - September 23, 2016 at 3:51 pm
RE: The unmoved mover - by fdesilva - September 23, 2016 at 4:32 pm
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RE: The unmoved mover - by Cyberman - September 23, 2016 at 5:28 pm
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RE: The unmoved mover - by fdesilva - September 23, 2016 at 4:23 pm
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RE: The unmoved mover - by Jesster - September 23, 2016 at 5:01 am
RE: The unmoved mover - by robvalue - September 23, 2016 at 4:44 am
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RE: The unmoved mover - by fdesilva - September 23, 2016 at 4:30 pm
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RE: The unmoved mover - by Jehanne - September 23, 2016 at 6:32 pm
RE: The unmoved mover - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 23, 2016 at 7:49 pm
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RE: The unmoved mover - by Arkilogue - September 23, 2016 at 10:28 pm
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RE: The unmoved mover - by Arkilogue - September 24, 2016 at 2:37 pm
RE: The unmoved mover - by Jehanne - September 24, 2016 at 3:05 pm
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RE: The unmoved mover - by Whateverist - September 24, 2016 at 11:21 am
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RE: The unmoved mover - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2016 at 3:13 am
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RE: The unmoved mover - by Esquilax - September 24, 2016 at 3:34 am
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RE: The unmoved mover - by Cyberman - September 24, 2016 at 12:04 pm
RE: The unmoved mover - by Whateverist - September 24, 2016 at 1:41 pm
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