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Is God Perfact? How?
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RE: Is God Perfact? How?
(January 5, 2017 at 11:12 am)Rhondazvous Wrote:
(January 5, 2017 at 10:49 am)Drich Wrote: So?
Where is it written that jealousy is wrong?

God is alpha and omega the first and the last authority. Meaning before anything else God is what He wants to be. That is true omnipotence.

All God did was take his 'shield off of Job.' Satan could have blessed Job further/bought Him off or treated him better than God did. But rather Satan decided to wreck Job's life. So what are you really angry at? As none of what God did for Job was owed to Job. Like wise the removal of God's shield and blessings was not a wrong doing.

4. He doesn’t keep his promises. Joshua 17:18, “But the mountain shall be thine; for it is a wood, and thou shalt cut it down: and the outgoings of it shall be thine: for thou shalt drive out the Canaanites, though they have iron chariots, and though they be strong.” But in Judges 1:19, “And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.”
word search theology... Note you had to take passages set hundreds of years apart andtape them together to find an objection. The book of Joshua is about dividing up or when the Jews first came to the promise land. Lets look at a contextual passage in a dialect we both can read:
16 The people of Joseph said, “It is true that the hill country of Ephraim is not large enough for us. But the Canaanites living there have powerful weapons—they have iron chariots! And they control Jezreel Valley, Beth Shean, and all the small towns in that area.”

17 Then Joshua said to the people of Joseph, the tribes of Ephraim and Manasseh, “You have many people and you are very strong, so you should get more than one share of the land. 18 You will take these mountains. It is a forest, but you can cut down the trees and make it a good place to live. You can take it from the Canaanites and force them to leave. You can defeat them, even if they are strong and have iron chariots.”

Did you see it? the tribe of EPh/Mana rejected the valley country and Joseph told them they could take and hols the mountainous Forrest as no chariots could be used there, and that is what they did. Then hundreds of years later when Israel began to rebel against God and began to worship false God do you find the opening failure with chariots.. The book of Judges is about the defeats and destruction of israel via the 'judges' God sents to bring them back into the fold.
who say that was a minor offense? someone without the benefit of perspective?

Again, if God is establishing that the wage of sin, all sin is death, then how is this a minor offense?
David repented the first moment his sin was made apparent, even so he felt the sting of his own sins through the deaths of his sons.

Uzzah, Not being of the tribe of levi should have been no where near the ark let alone close enough to reach out and touch it. That guy was testing God/wanted the power of those who who had touched the ark. Again not a minor thing.

After decreeing to never count the people of Israel David hears what he wants to and despite being consolued against it by his yop advisors he does so anyway.
define innocent. then provide proof these people were.

God did not lie. God allowed delusion to over take those who were susceptible to it.


If that is true how does that not invalidate your complaints?

yes. or rather grow with structure and direction.

because God even in the Greek does not claim your utopic idealism of the word perfection and ascribe it to himself.

Again His definition in the greek describes one that is complete lacking nothing/without sin. Both definitions have been used.

The way you are using the word "perfect" is the lazy mind's way of using a word in it's full translated meaning, but not taking into account that the original intent has lost some of it's intent in translation.

That is why I say you can't ascribe this utopian meaning  on god, because that is not what is being communicated in it's original text.

third candidate for Poe of the Year. Damn, these guys are running nose to nose. It one of them doesn't get a leg up soon it will be a tie.Big Grin

wassa matter??? my answer not fit your predetermined script? 'Atheist says A Christian says B and Atheist says Aha! C atheist wins???'

Because I pushed your topic into a "atheist has to think for her self" rather than rely on what 'off the shelf atheist agree on.' I'm the Poe... good luck with that
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Messages In This Thread
Is God Perfact? How? - by Rhondazvous - December 30, 2016 at 12:56 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Minimalist - December 30, 2016 at 1:00 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Angrboda - December 30, 2016 at 1:27 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Rhondazvous - December 30, 2016 at 6:24 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 30, 2016 at 6:32 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by chimp3 - December 30, 2016 at 6:54 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Chad32 - December 30, 2016 at 7:31 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Little Rik - December 31, 2016 at 9:13 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Chad32 - December 31, 2016 at 10:39 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Little Rik - December 31, 2016 at 11:09 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Chad32 - December 31, 2016 at 11:45 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Little Rik - January 1, 2017 at 10:34 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Chad32 - January 1, 2017 at 11:12 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Rhondazvous - January 1, 2017 at 11:32 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Little Rik - January 2, 2017 at 8:16 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Rhondazvous - January 5, 2017 at 7:51 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Godschild - January 5, 2017 at 9:16 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Little Rik - January 6, 2017 at 9:44 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Rhondazvous - January 6, 2017 at 8:23 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Little Rik - January 7, 2017 at 7:14 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Brian37 - December 31, 2016 at 10:54 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by ProgrammingGodJordan - January 12, 2017 at 4:40 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Asmodee - January 17, 2017 at 12:01 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Neo-Scholastic - December 31, 2016 at 11:35 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by chimp3 - December 31, 2016 at 11:50 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Rhondazvous - December 31, 2016 at 2:34 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Tonus - January 1, 2017 at 11:28 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 1:08 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Little Rik - January 6, 2017 at 9:22 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Godschild - January 5, 2017 at 2:20 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Edwardo Piet - January 5, 2017 at 9:28 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Rhondazvous - January 5, 2017 at 9:53 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Edwardo Piet - January 5, 2017 at 9:57 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Drich - January 5, 2017 at 10:49 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Rhondazvous - January 5, 2017 at 11:12 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Drich - January 6, 2017 at 9:28 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Edwardo Piet - January 5, 2017 at 11:44 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Rhondazvous - January 5, 2017 at 4:00 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by robvalue - January 7, 2017 at 9:51 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Little Rik - January 8, 2017 at 8:58 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by robvalue - January 8, 2017 at 9:26 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Little Rik - January 8, 2017 at 9:44 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by robvalue - January 8, 2017 at 12:32 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Little Rik - January 9, 2017 at 4:29 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Rhondazvous - January 9, 2017 at 1:20 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Little Rik - January 11, 2017 at 8:02 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Rhondazvous - January 11, 2017 at 7:53 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Little Rik - January 12, 2017 at 3:46 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Rhondazvous - January 14, 2017 at 6:27 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by robvalue - January 9, 2017 at 5:40 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Little Rik - January 11, 2017 at 10:11 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by chimp3 - January 9, 2017 at 8:02 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by robvalue - January 9, 2017 at 8:34 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Astonished - January 9, 2017 at 10:57 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Asmodee - January 9, 2017 at 11:58 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by robvalue - January 12, 2017 at 4:51 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Whateverist - January 14, 2017 at 6:54 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Rhondazvous - January 15, 2017 at 6:38 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by robvalue - January 15, 2017 at 4:00 am

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