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LHC disproves ghosts
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RE: LHC disproves ghosts
(February 22, 2017 at 1:53 pm)pocaracas Wrote:
(February 22, 2017 at 1:12 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: *emphasis mine*
Point me to where I mention anything about the "Theory of relativity". The word relative has existed long before Einstein thought of the theory. I said the scripture described time being relative by definition.  Why would ancient peoples even consider that time could differ according to point of view when they measured time according to the sun?

Also "psychological relativity" is just nonsense in this case, no one has ever psychologically perceived that 1 day = 1000 years.

Just below the part of my previous post you emphasized... check it out... I made a prediction and stopped you in your tracks before you could conclude your line of reasoning.
Like I said, Bite me!

(You never mentioned the Theory of Relativity... but you were going to conflate those two, sooner or later.. .now you know better!)
This isn't the first time I've had this discussion, If I was going to equate the two, don't you think I would have done it before now?

(February 22, 2017 at 1:53 pm)pocaracas Wrote:
(February 22, 2017 at 1:12 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: What I mean by "genetic modification" are genetically modified seeds, also known as GMO's.

Are GMO seeds sterile? All of them?
http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012...eds-busted
Quote:Myth 1: Seeds from GMOs are sterile.

No, they'll germinate and grow just like any other plant. This idea presumably has its roots in a real genetic modification (dubbed the Terminator Gene by anti-biotech activists) that can make a plant produce sterile seeds. Monsanto owns the patent on this technique, but has promised not to use it.

Now, biotech companies — and Monsanto in particular — do seem to wish that this idea were true. They do their best to keep farmers from replanting the offspring from GMOs. But they do this because, in fact, those seeds will multiply.

*emphasis mine*

I thought we already discussed this.

We agreed that genetic variations can exist that don't constitute a change in species , and that different species CANNOT produce fertile offspring.

Genetic modification covers a wide range of possibilities (but it was quantified by "hybrid"), so I think I was clear in what I meant by:

(February 21, 2017 at 10:42 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Each seed must produce after it's kind, 'kind' means species, humans belong to the same species.

What you need to do is provide an example is of completely separate species producing fertile offspring.
This begs the question, is the GMO considered to be a different species than the original? If so are the offspring of the GMO fertile?

(February 22, 2017 at 1:53 pm)pocaracas Wrote:
(February 22, 2017 at 1:12 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: *emphasis mine*
In the bible "kind" or "sort" means "species"

"Kind" "sort" and "Species" are synonymous

http://www.biology-online.org/dictionary/Kind

Damn... that "biology-online" site quotes Comfort... Ray Comfort?!... in the second definition... and the Bible itself...
LOL!!
I'm sorry, but I can't accept it as an authority.

Try to use an unbiased dictionary:
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/kind?s=t
Quote:noun
1. a class or group of individual objects, people, animals, etc., of the same nature or character, or classified together because they have traits in common; category:
Our dog is the same kind as theirs.
2. nature or character as determining likeness or difference between things:
These differ in degree rather than in kind.
3. a person or thing as being of a particular character or class:
He is a strange kind of hero.
4. a more or less adequate or inadequate example of something; sort:
The vines formed a kind of roof.
5. Archaic.
   the nature, or natural disposition or character.
   manner; form.
6. Obsolete. gender; sex.


No mention of species... but something close in #1.
*emphasis mine*
Really dude? That's the same definition for species.

form the same site
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/species?s=t
Quote:Species
1. a class of individuals having some common characteristics or qualities; distinct sort or kind.
You've called me disingenuous a number of times, what would you call what you just tried to pull?

Heck If you would just look down a little further in your own link for "kind", you'd see

Quote:Synonyms
1. order, genus, species; breed; set.

So yeah, they mean the same thing.  Rolleyes

(February 22, 2017 at 1:53 pm)pocaracas Wrote:
(February 22, 2017 at 1:12 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: I am a firm believer that many dimensions exist beyond the 3rd dimension, after all when we speak of an after life were simply speaking of entering into another dimension.

Why are you such a firm believer in that?
Why is belief required?
As I've stated, it comes down to personal conviction.

(February 22, 2017 at 1:53 pm)pocaracas Wrote:
(February 22, 2017 at 1:12 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: *emphasis mine*
http://www.universetoday.com/111603/does...ence-time/

Didn't you state that:

How do you reconcile the above statement with the concept of a photon experiencing zero time?

Did you even read what you quoted? I underlined it just for you. And yes, it matches perfectly with what I was saying.

Uhh no, you completely contradict what I posted.

You stated that:

(February 22, 2017 at 5:36 am)pocaracas Wrote: Look closer at the second sentence above the one you bolded... here, I'll repeat it: "No time" is not "stopped time".
From the photon's reference, time doesn't go by, but there is time.

You made it clear that "no time" (zero time) IS NOT the same as "stopped time", furthermore you go on to say that "time doesn't go by, but there is time.". implying that time exists, it's just stopped.

"Existing time" albeit stopped and "zero time" contradict one another, you say so yourself.
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LHC disproves ghosts - by dyresand - February 18, 2017 at 9:24 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 18, 2017 at 9:47 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by dyresand - February 18, 2017 at 10:30 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 18, 2017 at 10:55 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Anomalocaris - February 18, 2017 at 11:10 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Alex K - February 19, 2017 at 2:34 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by dyresand - February 19, 2017 at 2:46 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by RozKek - February 19, 2017 at 12:44 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Thumpalumpacus - February 18, 2017 at 9:51 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by ignoramus - February 18, 2017 at 11:05 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Edwardo Piet - February 18, 2017 at 11:37 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Neo-Scholastic - February 19, 2017 at 1:52 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Thumpalumpacus - February 19, 2017 at 2:13 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by ignoramus - February 19, 2017 at 2:27 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Neo-Scholastic - February 21, 2017 at 11:11 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 18, 2017 at 9:58 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Anomalocaris - February 18, 2017 at 11:06 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by vorlon13 - February 18, 2017 at 11:09 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Anomalocaris - February 18, 2017 at 11:11 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Edwardo Piet - February 18, 2017 at 10:15 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 18, 2017 at 10:17 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by paulpablo - February 19, 2017 at 2:08 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 19, 2017 at 2:17 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 18, 2017 at 11:11 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 18, 2017 at 11:18 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Anomalocaris - February 18, 2017 at 11:19 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 18, 2017 at 11:58 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Anomalocaris - February 19, 2017 at 12:08 am
LHC disproves ghosts - by KUSA - February 19, 2017 at 12:41 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 19, 2017 at 12:44 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by dyresand - February 19, 2017 at 1:17 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 19, 2017 at 1:20 am
LHC disproves ghosts - by KUSA - February 19, 2017 at 1:14 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 19, 2017 at 1:24 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by dyresand - February 19, 2017 at 1:30 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Anomalocaris - February 19, 2017 at 1:23 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 19, 2017 at 1:28 am
LHC disproves ghosts - by KUSA - February 19, 2017 at 1:27 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 19, 2017 at 1:30 am
LHC disproves ghosts - by KUSA - February 19, 2017 at 1:48 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 19, 2017 at 1:57 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by dyresand - February 19, 2017 at 2:16 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by pocaracas - February 19, 2017 at 7:28 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 21, 2017 at 12:50 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by pocaracas - February 21, 2017 at 9:18 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Anomalocaris - February 21, 2017 at 9:23 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 21, 2017 at 10:42 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by pocaracas - February 21, 2017 at 11:07 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 21, 2017 at 12:01 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by pocaracas - February 21, 2017 at 12:22 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 21, 2017 at 1:02 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by pocaracas - February 21, 2017 at 3:25 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 21, 2017 at 8:44 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by pocaracas - February 22, 2017 at 5:36 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 22, 2017 at 1:12 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by pocaracas - February 22, 2017 at 1:53 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 22, 2017 at 10:48 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by dyresand - February 23, 2017 at 3:28 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by pocaracas - February 23, 2017 at 6:54 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 24, 2017 at 11:37 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by pocaracas - February 24, 2017 at 11:58 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 24, 2017 at 2:12 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by pocaracas - February 24, 2017 at 3:47 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 24, 2017 at 8:35 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by dyresand - February 26, 2017 at 3:29 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 27, 2017 at 1:08 am
LHC disproves ghosts - by KUSA - February 19, 2017 at 1:01 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Thumpalumpacus - February 19, 2017 at 1:11 pm
LHC disproves ghosts - by KUSA - February 19, 2017 at 1:35 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by frankiej - February 19, 2017 at 1:39 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by I_am_not_mafia - February 19, 2017 at 4:08 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by LastPoet - February 19, 2017 at 1:38 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Mr Greene - February 19, 2017 at 2:35 pm
LHC disproves ghosts - by KUSA - February 21, 2017 at 8:06 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 21, 2017 at 8:40 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Anomalocaris - February 21, 2017 at 8:49 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Neo-Scholastic - February 21, 2017 at 10:53 am
LHC disproves ghosts - by KUSA - February 21, 2017 at 10:18 am
LHC disproves ghosts - by KUSA - February 21, 2017 at 11:05 am
LHC disproves ghosts - by KUSA - February 21, 2017 at 1:25 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Alex K - February 23, 2017 at 9:32 am
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Anomalocaris - February 24, 2017 at 2:34 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Huggy Bear - February 24, 2017 at 2:45 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Anomalocaris - February 24, 2017 at 4:23 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by dyresand - February 24, 2017 at 4:59 pm
RE: LHC disproves ghosts - by Alex K - February 24, 2017 at 5:46 pm



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