RE: "Cultural Appropriation"
June 27, 2017 at 4:04 pm
(This post was last modified: June 27, 2017 at 4:06 pm by paulpablo.)
(June 27, 2017 at 3:49 pm)Khemikal Wrote:(June 27, 2017 at 3:44 pm)paulpablo Wrote: I like the warm fuzzy atmosphere on this forum, even when there's a disagreement going on.No...it shows that those critics say that there is a certain set of activities..distinct from those others related - distinct from acculturation, acclimatization, or exchange, that they refer to as cultural appropriation or misappropriation.
Yeh so what you just posted shows that there's critics who frame cultural apropriation as being misappropriation. And it goes on to talk about collective intellectual property of cultures.
This is an open question, to anyone. Is there someone here who denies that the subset to which they are referring happened?
Quote:I disagree with the whole premise of intellectual property as owned by specific cultures so that's why the premise of how critics are framing cultural apropriation means nothing to me.Yes, but we already knew that you were suferring from racial apathy, so....? I get that you don't care, Some do.
Quote:I don't believe all white people or all black people have intellectual property rights over inventions within their cultures.Okay then...does that change anything about those instances that those critics are referring to..distinct from acculturation, acclimatization, or exchange? Does it mean that they didn't happen? Does it mean that they weren't a bad thing...for those people.
Another open question. Is there anyone here who denies that the activities described by that subset were decidedly negative, with a decidedly negative effect on those people, those cultures?
Quote:I also don't care about using elements of a culture in ways that the members of that culture didn't intend.Are you in some sort of colonial relationship with a christian minority? Satire is hardly what those critics are referring to, when they discuss cultural appropriation.
In fact I think it's a very good thing. Having the freedom to use Christian religious figures in comedies and so on is an important excersise in freedom.
How hard is it to say, to simply acknowledge. "So, yeah, we may have ripped off your culture even as we oppressed you...and maybe we made some changes that didn't exactly sit right with you, particularly in light of that whole exploitation thing." That -is- what happened. What is the problem with that? Why is it a frothing sjw thing to come down against that, in the past, present, or future?
We, as in a country. We, as in a culture. We, as in people with a history. Not we...as in "Me and my room-mate".
A lot to reply to there. But as a quick response. I'm not from your country, its likely that there's cultural similarities between me and you but I wouldn't say there's a thing known as our culture.
And I forgot that the appropriated culture has to be in the minority and have had a colonial relationship with the apropriator.
(Translation - only white people can do it)
But still stand by what I said, I think if Christian rituals and emblems can be used in an untraditional sense then it has to be equal among all religions and cultural rituals.
Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.
Impersonation is treason.