(July 2, 2017 at 11:29 pm)snowtracks Wrote:(June 22, 2017 at 4:02 am)ignoramus Wrote: I suppose on an atheist forum, the 2 lowest common denominators are fantasy vs reality.Science actually is used to validate the Biblical account of Creation; God reveals his existence by special revelation (scripture), and nature (general revelation). Scientists interpret one, the other is interpreted by theologians.
The bible is the engine room for fantasy and science the engine room for reality.
And never the twain shall meet.
Scripture stated Creation accurately millenniums before scientific verification. 1'st Chapter of Genesis gives 'Day' (interpreted correctly as long but finite periods of time) in physical time sequence; whereas, 2'nd chapter, states the 'why' of Creation which is not in physical time sequence.
1. Created the physical universe 13.79 bya. Then some 9 billion years were required to create heavy elements which were a product of stellar heat. These heavy elements are needed for the formation of planets and a requirement for advance life. Genesis 1:1 Frame of Reference is from above the Earth.
Now, the Genesis account perspective changes to just above the surface of the waters that completely covered the primordial earth. And the Genesis 'Days' begin.
2. Cleared away the interplanetary debris and partially transformed Earth’s atmosphere so light (non-visible spectrum) from the heavenly bodies could penetrate to the surface of Earth’s oceans, primary for photosynthesis.
3. Established the water cycle.
4. Formed ocean basins and continental land masses and then subsequent land plant growth,
5. Transformed the atmosphere from translucent to transparent (visible light).
6. Produced swarms of small sea animals.
7. Created birds and sea mammals.
8. Created land mammals capable of interacting with the future human race which included bi-pedal mammals as Neanderthals (non-spirit hominid - as is all mammals; and consequently have no existence after bodily death).
9. Created human species (Adam and Eve). Endowed with a Spirit (described as ‘made in God’s image’) which gives them many orders-of-magnitude capabilities above mammals; and will have existence after bodily death. The Spirit within 'Man' is what enabled mankind to develop a global high-tech society which God is using to fulfill his reason for the universe: Redemption*. Angels were created with a Spirit and free will, with no redemption plan; whereas, mankind is created with a Spirit and free will and a Redemption plan which some will choose for eternal connection with God, others will not and will choose separation from God.
So in the end God gives each one their eternal desire. Sidebar: God has restrictions on His freedom - He can't do anything contra to His Nature - God can't, that's right, can't torment. The torment some will experience in their eternal home is self-imposed which is of a spiritual dearth nature (expected since humans were created in the image of God and that spiritual connection then becomes severed).
*God only needed one specie - Homo sapiens sapiens. That’s why the SETI Institute is wasting resources*. God has already created two Spirit creatures with free will as described above. Would be no reason to create a Spirit endowed creature without free will.
**expected to find simple life organism on Moon, Mars, due to the Late Heavy Bombardment (LHB) period (Hadean eon) that jettison microbial life from meteoric and comet impacts upon the Earth.
The fact that there is no evidence to corroborate your interpretation of genesis and the fact that the sequences are out of order, probably don't bother you?
For instance, mammals first evolved on land. Aquatic mammals didn't come first.
The water cycle was probably established quite early on based on isotopic evidence from the Jack Hills zircons
There were no continental landmasses on the early earth. The world was basically one big "ocean basin" early on. You didn't get continents for billions of years
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TheBeardedDude