(July 25, 2017 at 3:34 pm)vorlon13 Wrote:(July 25, 2017 at 10:21 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: Telling you that we don't have a problem with Jesus as a person IS a straight answer. Either he's made-up and all of his words are really someone else's, or he's real and we don't know which words attributed to him are his and which were put in his mouth by writers. Either way, we have no reason to be mad at Jesus as a person, if he was a person. Some people's conception of Jesus, and some of the people who claim to represent him, on the other hand, don't make him look too good. Maybe Jesus was an asshole, but we can't KNOW if he was an asshole. Maybe he was the most lovely person in the middle east in the 1st century, but we can't KNOW that either, I'm afraid.
Whoever first told the Parable of the Good Samaritan, I like it. Whoever told the parable about beating slaves, I don't like it. I don't know if either or both came from a 1st century rabbi named Yeshua who got in trouble with the Romans. Crucifixion is a hard way to go that I wouldn't wish on anyone.
Asimov came up with this and I agree:
Why wouldn't a "good" Samaritan do as described in the parable?
Think about that for a second, and then realize Jesus never used the word "good'. It's on the header for the page, but no one claims Jesus wrote those.
Now read the parable again, and insert the word "ordinary" before each use of Samaritan. It's a different parable now, isn't it? And since Jesus didn't use the word "good", an ordinary Samaritan is what He had in mind.
Why does virtually every one get the wrong meaning from that parable ??
Inertia, peer pressure, not bothering to read the damn book again ??????
Although it's kind of off-track from why this idiot thinks we hate Jesus, Vor, I have heard the story told as the actions of a normal, (scumbag who doesn't worship our god) Samaritan many times. I like the image that the one who had compassion was the outsider, the one the "holy people" didn't even think of as human. That resonates with me. It might be interesting to find the actual origin of the tale. And, of course, it's a parable in the wholly babble. This means it can mean anything you want it to mean.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein