RE: A good argument for God's existence (long but worth it)
September 1, 2017 at 4:16 pm
(This post was last modified: September 1, 2017 at 4:22 pm by Mystic.)
(September 1, 2017 at 4:01 pm)Hammy Wrote:(September 1, 2017 at 3:54 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Welcome back, MK.
This seems to be, at best, an argument against the Argument from Evil, rather than an argument for the existence of God. It doesn't matter how good you make God out to be, or how well you reconcile the existence of evil with a good, omnipotent God; there's still no sufficiently justified rational reason to believe such a God is real in the first place.
It's an attempt but complete failure at even addressing the Argument from Evil.
And yes, even if a good God that is 100% powerful and 100% knowledgable were possible (it isn't possible but even if it were).... there's still no evidence for such a God.
His argument is declared as addressing the argument form evil. He simply declares that he is addressing it.... but then.... he doesn't even address it. Lol.
And the logic from the argument from evil is completely undefeatable anyway. Only time I've actually seen it successfuly ADDRESSED is when people say that God allows evil because he thinks giving people the free will is more important than preventing evil. 1. It isn't. God should make us all permanently happy conscious biological robots incapable of doing evil without free will if he's truly good. 2. Free will isn't even fucking possible and we already are conscious biological robots... we're just not all happy or incapable of doing evil, because there isn't a good God.
There are many ways the argument of evil can be refuted. The argument from free-will addresses it emotionally, tries to make sense of it emotionally.
What I have shown is to objectively show it's a paradox in the first place. That the argument of evil seeks to creates an imaginary connection to the Ultimate being only to say such a being doesn't exist.
I also have shown before it's an argument from ignorance, even the probability one is. And I have made threads dealing with the emotional appeal of it by offering explanations to evil.
This thread I brought the issue of evil, because, I know the subject at hand right away shows it to be a paradox. But the main issue is how it proves God, and so I am not going to divert this thread.
(September 1, 2017 at 4:14 pm)Hammy Wrote: I think I preferred the miserable MK because at least he wasn't a complete vegetable who had switched his brain off completely.
Actually, are you sure you're still a Muslim and not a Scientologist?
That almost hurt but then I found it funny how you keep trying to force the issue as if I switched my brain off - which is really telling of what you are doing.
You aren't even willing to digest the argument but just want to pull the same cards you are used to. *smiles*
The new argument by me requires new arguments to refute it back if it can be refuted. *prays for guidance of Hammy*
