(September 4, 2017 at 4:06 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:(September 4, 2017 at 3:58 pm)pocaracas Wrote: MK, you use the word "value" a lot, here.
What is value?
Do things have value? I'd say that somethings, yes... and somethings we don't care...
Does money have value? Very much, huh? What makes money valuable? Does it have the same value to everyone? Does it have some "exact value"?
To my kids, I am more valuable than I am to you, am I not?
Like money, each of us has a value that is different for each person evaluating us.... and we evaluate ourselves, too.
Those values are all different, and none is exact.
This is so manifest, so apparent, so clear, that we don't need anything else, other than humans, to give us value.
Why do you think that your "reasoning" has any merit?
Why do you keep coming here with these futile arguments?
Do you enjoy being told time and time again "Wrong!! Go back to the drawing board!"?
Please think about what these concepts (like value) represent, before you go off and write a near-incomprehensible wall of text that can easily be picked apart, because you're using the concepts in a woo fashion that is not what they were generated for.
I am talking about the exact value we have as individuals.
Then you are talking about something I cannot understand. Your value to your mother would be of one kind, to a mate another and to someone who only knows you only from your online presence something else altogether. So it is unclear how you could possibly have one constant value to everyone in the world. But of course you mean to some uber being who created you - you know - the very thing you are supposedly arguing for. Nothing like basing your argument on your premise.
