RE: A good argument for God's existence (long but worth it)
September 12, 2017 at 9:26 am
(This post was last modified: September 12, 2017 at 10:05 am by LadyForCamus.)
(September 12, 2017 at 7:37 am)MysticKnight Wrote:(September 12, 2017 at 6:59 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: Bold mine.
This is simply a big, fat argument ad populum, MK. Not evidence.
You don't get to just declare an assertion 'clear and obviously true' by fiat. That's not how this works. 'It's true cuz...duh, it's obvious,' is neither an argument nor evidence.
It's not as simple as that. To state what I state is wrong is one thing, but that no understands that perception but me, then when reminded majority of humans past and present understand it, it is a good question to ask why don't some Atheists understand it.
You see if you guys can go past the "your statements are too vague" or get me to define every single word used, we can get into an actual discussion over the truth of the statements.
But this only MysticKnight understands these spiritual topics has to stop, because most of humans, and great philosophers like Plato, understood this.
I never said it is true because majority believe in it, I am talking about understanding it, which you many of you keep stating you don't understand.
What I'm saying is this: If you are going to use this thing, "ultimate goodness", in an argument to attempt to draw truth conclusions regarding the existence of god, you have to first demonstrate that it's an actual thing.
Every argument from you in the last two years has gone something like this:
If ultimate goodness exists, then god exists.
Ultimate goodness exists.
Therefore, god exists.
But, you have yet to demonstrate that this ultimate goodness does, in fact, exist. You can't even describe it coherently. And, every time we challenge you on your lack of evidential support for this assertion, your response is, 'of course it exists! How can you guys not see that?' That is a non-starter for any discussion regarding the existence of anything.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.