RE: Enlightened rants...
October 15, 2017 at 8:58 pm
(This post was last modified: October 15, 2017 at 8:59 pm by WinterHold.)
(October 15, 2017 at 8:55 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Well for starters, Bani-Israel had similarly those who possess the authority from them, mainly, Messengers but mixed their course and authority with following leaders not appointed by God. A great portion of Quran is devoted to how the false authority of religious clergy was mixed with that of divine authority of leaders appointed by God, mainly the Messengers.
And it because they broke the covenant with respect to their Messengers who after Moses, were Twelve Navigating Captains, they twisted God's words and their hearts became hard while doing so.
So they were cursed as a result because they didn't take the covenant seriously, but they were meant to hold on to no less and no more than Twelve Navigators that would succeed Moses.
And the number taken is important then, as it's important to have a number for the Ulil-Amr, lest people choose whatever leaders they want to follow for religion.
Lest falsehood becomes indistinguishable from truth.
The Ulil-Amr in clear context is chosen pure leaders appointed by God.
And so 5:12 is emphasizing on a number and wisdom of manifesting a number.
Quote: AtlasS33 said:
Answer any of these.
And no gymnastics or textual walls ! no implicit answers!
Just give me one verse, across the 600 pages of the Quran that mentions any of the 5 questions' answers.
AtlasS33 said:
I'll give you many options; all prove your religion if you answer them:
1- A verse mentioning "Ali" by the name.
2-A verse mentioning "Hasaen" by the name.
3-A verse mentioning "Hussain" by the name.
4-A verse mentioning the 12 divine imams that we must follow
5-A verse mentioning the last imam that you and your cult believe will rule the universe or whatever -Imam Mahdy-