Religious 'connection'

[Little Rik]

I did asked several times to different atheists........WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RELIGION AND SPIRITUALITY........guess what son...
Nobody was able to tell me the difference.
In fact they all say...............religion and spirituality are the same thing.
This only show how stupid some people are.  

Oh by the way thanks for tell me that you too join the ranks of the fools.  

I totally respect your right to hold an opinion different than my own.  I assume your beliefs are genuine at least from your own point of view.  However in my opinion your beliefs and those of any fundamentalist religionist share many points in common.  One is an unwavering certainty in a system of beliefs which you share with a wider community and which you obtained from a recognized leader of said community.  Another is your insistence that those who approach questions of meaningfulness and purpose in a manner different from your own are flat out wrong.  

I understand that you are entirely satisfied with the truth and accuracy of your beliefs, but I also note that all fundamentalist religionists are as well.  So fine, if you prefer to brand your unshakable beliefs as spirituality rather than religion, you go right on ahead and do so.  But please try to recognize that others will describe your beliefs by what they can observe in your behavior and what they hear you say.  You call it stupid but then you subscribe to a rigid jargon we don't share, so no offense taken.  Since a person can be judged as accurately by his detractors as by his supporters you do me great honor.

Life in this finite universe is all about confrontation.
If I say that somebody else is wrong is up to the other person to prove me wrong.
If the other person get offended then what is the point in being in a forum?
They should join a club in which everybody think in the same way.

As far as we are here in a forum the participants should be prepared to confront other people point of view.
By the way a fundamentalist rely on dogmas.
I do not.
I have no dogmas so I can not possibly be a fundamentalist.
NDEs which I believe in are based on science not on dogma.
The very science that contradict atheists.
Most atheists rely on dogma.
They say that the consciousness is a product of the brain and when the brain die also the consciousness die.
These kind of unproven statements taken as real evidence automatically end up in the corral of dogmas so it is quite obvious that most atheists are fundamentalists considering that they rely on dogmas.  


One more point.
You say...................an unwavering certainty in a system of beliefs which you share with a wider community and which you obtained from a recognized leader of said community............

This has very little to do with anything.
Suppose you study in order to become a doctor or suppose you train in order to become a black belt.
You of course must have total belief in the system that your trainer or teacher teach you.
Are you follow a religion in this case?
You have no idea what a religion is nor what spirituality is all about.