RE: Evolution
May 4, 2018 at 2:39 pm
(This post was last modified: May 4, 2018 at 2:58 pm by Angrboda.)
(May 3, 2018 at 9:38 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Help? What possible help could you be to anyone? Your entire worldview is based on the dogma that vibrations and energy are alive. You're just another religious nutball.
I've pointed out multiple times that the points you cite can't distinguish between the yoga view that vibrations and energy are alive and the Christian view that a god external to them is causing them to behave as they do. Yet you obviously believe the Christian view is false, and the yoga view is correct. So far you've studiously avoided answering this problem, most likely because you have no actual reason for preferring the yoga view. Well put up or shut up. If you don't have a reason for preferring the yoga view, then it is just dogma.
Your entire case for the belief that vibrations and energy are alive come down to a supposed similarity between the behavior of them and those of life. They move, therefore they must be alive. In addition to the problem above, even you admit that the way vibrations and energy behave is different from that of 'higher' life. So what is the similarity? Life as we know it all performs the processes of consumption, metabolism, excretion, and reproduction. Do vibrations or energy? No they do not. Your analogy fails at even the most basic level. That's because your belief isn't based upon any analogy between vibrations or energy and life, but rather because it's dogma that you were taught to believe regardless of the evidence.
You're just another deluded religious twat. The only person you could possibly help is yourself, but you'd rather roll around in dogma like an idiot.
(May 4, 2018 at 5:10 am)Little Rik Wrote: FIVE TIMES FOOL.
Everything in life is Vibration
http://altered-states.net/barry/newsletter463/
This is physics not philosophy or religion yog.
Whether the article you linked to is physics or not doesn't matter because the article doesn't address the question of whether vibrations and energy are alive. The only thing that article talks about is using vibrations to heal living organisms. Even if everything in that article were valid, it wouldn't mean anything in relation to your claim that vibrations/energy are alive. Did you even read the article? Apparently not. That you think I'm the fool when you are posting articles that you haven't even read is laughable. Only a complete fool and moron posts irrelevant tripe that has nothing to do with the question being debated and then claims that "science" is on their side.
(May 4, 2018 at 5:10 am)Little Rik Wrote: Only life can bring more life that is why vibration are alive.
I already responded to this when you first brought it up (HERE and HERE). You have no evidence or proof that life only comes from life, so this is just an unsupported assertion. But I already pointed out that you have no reasons or evidence for this, as well as other problems with this claim. Are you deaf? Or did you sleep through that post as well? Or do you believe that repeating bullshit enough times will somehow make it not be bullshit? What the fuck is wrong with you?
Regardless, since you have no reason or evidence for believing that life can only come from life, your argument here doesn't in anyway demonstrate your claim.
(May 4, 2018 at 5:10 am)Little Rik Wrote: As I already said to you .........you show me that non life can bring life and I will make you rich.
You could even win a Nobel prize by the way.
And yet more bullshit that I've already responded to. I'm not making a claim here. You are. It's your job to show that your belief that vibrations/energy are alive is justified, not my job to show that it is false. You show no evidence of having even heard my prior points. Even if your view of evolution is true, you aren't going anywhere because you've demonstrated that you are incapable of learning. Your head might as well be a rock, and all your meditation might just as well have been picking your nose -- you are incapable of making any progress.
(May 4, 2018 at 5:10 am)Little Rik Wrote: Sorry yog but science is on my side and if yoga goes hand in hand with science then I win twice.
Since you haven't presented any science that supports your belief that vibrations/energy are alive, I can only assume this is just more unsupported bullshit. If you have scientific evidence, then present it. Otherwise your claims of science agreeing with you are just more fantasies from a deluded religious fuck.
(May 4, 2018 at 5:10 am)Little Rik Wrote: One last point.
Why vibrations and energy behave is different from that of 'higher' life?
Stupid question yog.
It is all about more or less awareness of who we are.
A rock doesn't have any way to express herself because she lack in awareness despite the fact that she is full of energy-vibrations but higher form of life can do a lot of things because the awareness within is a lot greater.
Suppose God vibrations are like a straight line while human vibrations are like waves.
Matter vibration therefore are a lot more slow.
I could really care less. If vibrations/energy don't behave like higher life, then you have no reason for concluding that vibrations/energy are alive from their behavior. What you think about the metaphysics of vibrations means fuckall to the question you've been asked. This is just more irrelevant tripe like the article you linked to above.
(May 3, 2018 at 9:38 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: I've pointed out multiple times that the points you cite can't distinguish between the yoga view that vibrations and energy are alive and the Christian view that a god external to them is causing them to behave as they do. Yet you obviously believe the Christian view is false, and the yoga view is correct. So far you've studiously avoided answering this problem, most likely because you have no actual reason for preferring the yoga view. Well put up or shut up. If you don't have a reason for preferring the yoga view, then it is just dogma.
It appears that you chose to shut up, rather than put up. If you can't provide justification for believing that the Christian view is wrong, then you obviously don't have any such reasons. That makes your rejection of Christianity simply yet another dogmatic belief of yours. But perhaps you are deaf, or unable to read, or perhaps you were asleep, or just being a douche and not bothering to read shit like above. Speak now or forever hold your peace. Either you have reasons to reject the Christian theory or you don't. If you don't, your belief that vibrations/energy are alive is just dogma.