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Are Numbers Real?
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RE: Are Numbers Real?
(October 15, 2018 at 6:53 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: During a discussion of moral realism in the philosophy subforums, I was reminded that (like ethics) the status of mathematics has been brought into question as an objective enterprise that can produce truth statements.

What say you? Are numbers real? If so, in what way are they real?




I’m a little torn on the issue. On one hand, I see a number of bad arguments that are used with the topic of objective morality, to say that they are not. And I do not think that we can arbitrarily change them. On the other hand, I think that there are some good arguments against; even if not definitive.

I’m on the fence, but lean quite a bit towards numbers/mathematics being real and something which is discovered, rather than made up.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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Are Numbers Real? - by vulcanlogician - October 15, 2018 at 6:53 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by brewer - October 15, 2018 at 7:04 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by MysticKnight - October 15, 2018 at 7:12 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by Fireball - October 15, 2018 at 7:30 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by Aliza - October 15, 2018 at 7:33 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by brewer - October 15, 2018 at 9:17 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by Aliza - October 15, 2018 at 7:15 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by Brian37 - October 15, 2018 at 7:16 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by ignoramus - October 15, 2018 at 7:50 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by Minimalist - October 15, 2018 at 8:02 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by Fireball - October 15, 2018 at 8:39 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by Minimalist - October 15, 2018 at 9:26 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by no one - October 15, 2018 at 8:35 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by ignoramus - October 15, 2018 at 9:08 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by Fireball - October 15, 2018 at 10:13 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by The Valkyrie - October 15, 2018 at 9:16 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by Aliza - October 15, 2018 at 9:55 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by The Valkyrie - October 15, 2018 at 10:27 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by Little lunch - October 16, 2018 at 5:39 am
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by no one - October 15, 2018 at 9:38 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by Fireball - October 15, 2018 at 10:05 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by Reltzik - October 15, 2018 at 9:40 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by RoadRunner79 - October 15, 2018 at 9:46 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by no one - October 15, 2018 at 10:08 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by brewer - October 15, 2018 at 10:21 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by bennyboy - October 15, 2018 at 11:25 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by vulcanlogician - October 16, 2018 at 12:51 am
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by robvalue - October 16, 2018 at 1:26 am
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by vulcanlogician - October 16, 2018 at 1:46 am
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by Aliza - October 16, 2018 at 1:57 am
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by robvalue - October 16, 2018 at 2:16 am
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by vulcanlogician - October 16, 2018 at 2:38 am
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by robvalue - October 16, 2018 at 2:53 am
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by I_am_not_mafia - October 16, 2018 at 3:15 am
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by vulcanlogician - October 16, 2018 at 4:39 am
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by robvalue - October 16, 2018 at 4:51 am
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by I_am_not_mafia - October 17, 2018 at 8:18 am
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by polymath257 - October 16, 2018 at 9:31 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by Angrboda - October 16, 2018 at 11:03 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by polymath257 - October 17, 2018 at 9:20 am
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by vulcanlogician - October 17, 2018 at 8:08 am
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by ignoramus - October 15, 2018 at 11:34 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by Foxaèr - October 16, 2018 at 12:54 am
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by fromdownunder - October 16, 2018 at 2:46 am
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by I_am_not_mafia - October 16, 2018 at 3:02 am
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by robvalue - October 16, 2018 at 3:12 am
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by ignoramus - October 16, 2018 at 4:39 am
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by Grandizer - October 16, 2018 at 5:04 am
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by robvalue - October 16, 2018 at 5:09 am
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by The Grand Nudger - October 16, 2018 at 6:02 am
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by Angrboda - October 16, 2018 at 6:02 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by ignoramus - October 16, 2018 at 6:14 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by Neo-Scholastic - October 16, 2018 at 6:23 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by ignoramus - October 16, 2018 at 6:45 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by Fireball - October 16, 2018 at 6:55 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by Fireball - October 16, 2018 at 10:32 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by robvalue - October 17, 2018 at 2:00 am
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by Sal - October 17, 2018 at 9:46 am
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by robvalue - October 17, 2018 at 11:50 am
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by Dr H - October 17, 2018 at 5:22 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by Grandizer - October 17, 2018 at 5:32 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by Dr H - October 17, 2018 at 6:14 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 17, 2018 at 6:27 pm
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by bennyboy - October 20, 2018 at 4:01 am
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by vulcanlogician - October 20, 2018 at 4:34 am
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by Belacqua - October 20, 2018 at 4:52 am
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by downbeatplumb - October 20, 2018 at 6:51 am
RE: Are Numbers Real? - by Magilla - October 22, 2018 at 9:33 pm

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