[split] IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help?-NDE Discussion

[Angrboda]

Your response to my pointing out your inaccurate use of the term brain death is to link to an accidental misdiagnosis and blame poca for your error?  You are a funny guy, Huggy.

Not an error, just not trying to argue semantics. If Poca wants to take "zero brain function" to mean 'brain dead' so be it the point is we're talking of a NON FUNCTIONING brain.

Posting the definitions of 'brain death' doesn't change that fact.

I've reference a procedure that drains all the blood from the brain. No blood flow in the brain means no oxygen, no oxygen means no brain activity, which is for all intents and purposes, brain death.

Yeah, for all intents and purposes, aside from the death part. It's not a technicality, Huggy. Survivalists like yourself intentionally equivocate upon the meaning of terms such as death and brain death in order to blur the distinction between near death and actual death, so that they can misrepresent the evidence and make false arguments. I get it. From what I remember, lying isn't wrong if it's done for a good cause according to some Christians. It's still an error to refer to cases such as the Pamela Reynolds case as "purposely inducing brain death." For what it's worth, I took Poca's reference as a sarcastic comment upon your "absolutely zero brain functionality" comment. The fact is that the brains of people who experience NDEs retain a considerable amount of functionality. If they didn't, they wouldn't be able to be revived. Brain function is not simply what can be measured by an EEG, and even that is a matter of some speculation. Exactly what brain processes are active during an NDE is central to the entire question. And we simply don't know in cases such as those of veridical NDEs such as the ones you cite. So you started by making false statements about near death experiences, and then when Poca commented upon your claim, you doubled down upon the misrepresentation by implying that such people experienced brain death, and then had the chutzpah to try to blame it on Poca and misrepresent it as a mere matter of semantics. What function the brains of near death experiencers like Pamela Reynolds retained at the time of their experience is central to such discussions. It's not peripheral at all. It's not a semantic argument at all. It's the difference between the truth and a convenient misrepresentation. Regardless, neither your statement about brain functionality or brain death were accurate, and the person responsible for both is you.