RE: Islam slave trade
October 27, 2019 at 8:53 am
(This post was last modified: October 27, 2019 at 9:08 am by WinterHold.)
(October 27, 2019 at 1:25 am)Deesse23 Wrote:(October 27, 2019 at 12:44 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Yes; they did. They defeated the mongols and ended their rein of terror.You stubbornly repeating a lie doesnt make it true. Whishful thinking doesnt work, as well as stomping your feet, but who am i talking to? A man who has an invisible friend.
So, how did the Mamluks achieve anything else than to stop the mongol expansion into Egypt?
How comes the mongol empire increased in size for 30 more years and existed for more than 100 more years, before it collapsed due to internal subdivision, because it became too big?
Did or did not Hulegu take most mongol troops with him (iirc 4/5 tumens) before the battle, so that the mamluks fought only 20% of the mongol troops originally assigned to conquer the Levant and Egypt? What happened between Baibars and Qutuz after Ain Jalut, please tell us? Who was Qutuz´slave master? A christian, or a muslim mamluk himself? Wow, the muslim mamluks slave kings who had muslim mamluk slaves?! Shocking! Who was Baibars´ slave master? A christian or an muslim Ayyubid emir? Wow, Ayyubids, also muslims having muslim slaves.
christian culture, and i am able to admit its wrong doings. Why cant you? What makes you so special that we should absolve you and Islam of for all its atrocities? You know why, its because you still dont want to throw off the shackles of your vile rel...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamluk_Sultanate_(Cairo)
Quote:While Mamluks were purchased, their status was above ordinary slaves, who were not allowed to carry weapons or perform certain tasks. Mamluks were considered to be "true lords", with social status above citizens of Egypt. Though it declined towards the end of its existence, at its height the sultanate represented the zenith of medieval Egyptian and Levantine political, economic, and cultural glory in the Islamic Golden Age.[15]
(October 27, 2019 at 6:49 am)Athene Wrote:(October 26, 2019 at 2:43 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: All the slaves sold to Europeans on the West African coast were the prisoners of Africans.
Untrue.
Europeans (primarily the Portuguese, British, and Dutch) did conduct slave raids along the West African coast; Especially in the early phases of the of the TST.
In regards to the captives who were sold to slavers by African middlemen--Africans did not subscribe to the notion of a homogeneous "African" or "Black" ethnicity--No reason why they would considering the sheer amount of ethnicity/genetic diversity among people living on the continent. That's a box Eurocentrists invented and tossed them all of them in.
Worth noting, when running with the "they sold themselves" narrative. For the most part, leaders and merchants were selling and trading captives/POWs they regarded as foreign; Not subjects of their own tribes/kingdoms.
The "they sold themselves" narrative is used to mask one's own acts; or Tu Quoque argument:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque
One of the arts of bellydancing in debates and discussion; like saying "why care about African slaves? they brought slavery upon themselves"; very unethical if you think about it.
The word is this: white people gave humanity a permanent headache via the invention of atomic bombs, enslaving Africa and massacring north and south America.