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[Serious] Giordano Bruno
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RE: Giordano Bruno
(February 20, 2020 at 7:50 pm)brewer Wrote:
Quote:Last-first, "we turned him over to a civil power": https://famous-trials.com/bruno/265-letter So much for dumb. And it's not the only time I've see the "other" killed, not us position. Regrettable, but still not us. 

I have no idea what this is trying to say.


Quote:You might be presenting what historians have said, but they are repeating what catholics have said. 

Garbage. That is not how historians work.


Quote:And the "kooky" Bruno is a position. I'll take what I get from Stanford: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/bruno/  Not in all ways kooky, includes science, at the least science thought.

It includes "science thought" the way Deepak Chopra includes quantum mechanics. That doesn't make Chopra a quantum physicist. As I said, Bruno rejected science as too limiting, chided Coperncius for being restricted by mere mathematics, called actual astronomers "geometers" who he said would confirm some of his kooky ideas (they didn't) and then got the science of heliocentrism wrong in his sole simplistic attempt at explaining it. Those of us who have actually read his works and the scholarship about him rather than Googling a couple of websites are pretty clear on this point.


Quote:It's interesting that the catholics initially denied the execution, then threw a fit at having a statue erected. Hmmm...... something stinks here. Are there records of catholics throwing hissy fits over the execution of other kooks?

Where and when did they "deny the execution"? And the objection to the statue was due to some nineteenth century politics, which it seems you don't understand.


Quote:BTW, I'm not going to read your "long articles". I find you/your writings quite off putting.

Yes, that's usually the reaction of close-minded fundamentalists to correction that they can't refute.


Quote:But I read that the religious love them.

Smarter atheists love them too. The ones that actually are open-minded and rational that is, as opposed to the reflex fundamentalists who talk about being those things but just cling to a new set of dogmas and snarl at anyone who disturbs their circle jerks.
Tim O'Neill

History for Atheists - New Atheists Getting History Wrong
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Giordano Bruno - by Belacqua - February 18, 2020 at 7:13 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 18, 2020 at 7:32 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 18, 2020 at 7:33 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by Belacqua - February 18, 2020 at 7:34 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 18, 2020 at 7:46 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by Belacqua - February 18, 2020 at 8:17 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 18, 2020 at 9:25 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by Belacqua - February 18, 2020 at 5:32 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 18, 2020 at 6:36 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by Belacqua - February 18, 2020 at 6:58 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by Mister Agenda - February 19, 2020 at 10:54 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by Belacqua - February 19, 2020 at 4:17 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by Fireball - February 19, 2020 at 8:49 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by Belacqua - February 20, 2020 at 12:52 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 20, 2020 at 7:27 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by Belacqua - February 20, 2020 at 7:54 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by Fake Messiah - February 20, 2020 at 8:30 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by TimOneill - February 20, 2020 at 2:09 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by brewer - February 20, 2020 at 4:02 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by TimOneill - February 20, 2020 at 4:18 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by Fake Messiah - February 20, 2020 at 4:35 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by TimOneill - February 20, 2020 at 4:39 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by Belacqua - February 20, 2020 at 5:51 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by Mister Agenda - February 21, 2020 at 10:24 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by TimOneill - February 21, 2020 at 10:56 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by brewer - February 21, 2020 at 11:58 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by brewer - February 20, 2020 at 4:49 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by TimOneill - February 20, 2020 at 6:46 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by brewer - February 20, 2020 at 7:50 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by Belacqua - February 20, 2020 at 8:17 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by brewer - February 20, 2020 at 10:32 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by TimOneill - February 21, 2020 at 12:10 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by TimOneill - February 20, 2020 at 8:38 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by The Architect Of Fate - February 20, 2020 at 9:37 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by brewer - February 20, 2020 at 11:32 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by The Architect Of Fate - February 20, 2020 at 11:39 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by brewer - February 20, 2020 at 11:48 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by The Architect Of Fate - February 21, 2020 at 12:16 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by TimOneill - February 21, 2020 at 12:19 am
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RE: Giordano Bruno - by Mister Agenda - February 20, 2020 at 10:47 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by The Grand Nudger - February 18, 2020 at 8:37 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by The Architect Of Fate - February 18, 2020 at 9:30 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by TimOneill - February 18, 2020 at 1:59 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by The Architect Of Fate - February 18, 2020 at 5:21 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by TimOneill - February 18, 2020 at 6:38 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by Mister Agenda - February 18, 2020 at 11:01 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by brewer - February 18, 2020 at 1:55 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by The Architect Of Fate - February 18, 2020 at 5:43 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by Belacqua - February 18, 2020 at 6:06 pm
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RE: Giordano Bruno - by The Architect Of Fate - February 18, 2020 at 6:50 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by TimOneill - February 18, 2020 at 6:56 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by The Architect Of Fate - February 18, 2020 at 7:04 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by TimOneill - February 18, 2020 at 7:09 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by The Architect Of Fate - February 18, 2020 at 7:17 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by TimOneill - February 18, 2020 at 7:22 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by The Architect Of Fate - February 18, 2020 at 7:28 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by chimp3 - February 18, 2020 at 8:18 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by Belacqua - February 19, 2020 at 12:47 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by Belacqua - February 19, 2020 at 3:24 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by The Grand Nudger - February 19, 2020 at 8:35 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by The Grand Nudger - February 20, 2020 at 1:13 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by Deesse23 - February 20, 2020 at 7:39 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by brewer - February 20, 2020 at 8:44 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by brewer - February 20, 2020 at 11:49 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by Belacqua - February 21, 2020 at 5:09 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by brewer - February 21, 2020 at 9:17 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by Belacqua - February 21, 2020 at 6:37 pm
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RE: Giordano Bruno - by Belacqua - February 21, 2020 at 7:25 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by brewer - February 21, 2020 at 7:59 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by The Architect Of Fate - February 21, 2020 at 8:12 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by Belacqua - February 21, 2020 at 8:35 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by brewer - February 21, 2020 at 10:26 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by Belacqua - February 21, 2020 at 10:41 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by The Architect Of Fate - February 21, 2020 at 9:19 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 21, 2020 at 7:31 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by Belacqua - February 21, 2020 at 7:32 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 21, 2020 at 7:37 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 21, 2020 at 8:09 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by The Architect Of Fate - February 21, 2020 at 8:58 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by brewer - February 21, 2020 at 10:46 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by Belacqua - February 21, 2020 at 11:18 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by Belacqua - February 22, 2020 at 12:25 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by brewer - February 22, 2020 at 8:45 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by Belacqua - February 22, 2020 at 7:27 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by brewer - February 22, 2020 at 8:35 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by Belacqua - February 22, 2020 at 8:56 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by brewer - February 22, 2020 at 11:19 pm
RE: Giordano Bruno - by Abaddon_ire - February 23, 2020 at 12:24 am
RE: Giordano Bruno - by The Architect Of Fate - February 22, 2020 at 7:32 pm
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